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Old 07-23-2008, 01:20 PM   #1
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Fuel additive

Is it ok to add fuel additive to your bike? If so what kind?
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:28 PM   #2
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why would you want to do this?
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as an inj. cleaner
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you aren't even coming close to using 3/4 of the power that bike has to offer you now. a fuel additive is only going to yield you a "waste of money".
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Even high octaine can dirty your engine and wanted if it is advisable to use an additive every once and a while, not all the time but like every 5k or sooner? If so how many miles between uses.
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Even high octaine can dirty your engine and wanted if it is advisable to use an additive every once and a while, not all the time but like every 5k or sooner? If so how many miles between uses.
what does high octane have to do with the cleaning abilities of gas?
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Even high octaine can dirty your engine and wanted if it is advisable to use an additive every once and a while, not all the time but like every 5k or sooner? If so how many miles between uses.
I've used BG products, and just follow the directions.

On my track bike, I've never used it.

For my street bikes, I've used it because I was paranoid about some of the places where I had to get fuel...

Most of the time, it's not necessary though- as long as you can run "good" fuels.
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Gasoline is already a good cleaner; it goes through a screen for the pump that no even liquid silicone can penetrate(see other rider's threads and our experience from people that repair a fuel pump wo replacing the gasket.)

If you're interested in an octane booster; its not likely to change that much. Buy some 'happier' gas at the track think the going rate is 25/gallon?

If interested in fuel injector cleaner; its likely to clean the tank before the detergants ever enter the injectors.

Using a fuel injector rail cleaner(at a shop) runs the bike w the direct cleaner and gasoline from the machine. That's your best bet if you feel your bike needs it.
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Gasoline is already a good cleaner; it goes through a screen for the pump that no even liquid silicone can penetrate(see other rider's threads and our experience from people that repair a fuel pump wo replacing the gasket.)

If you're interested in an octane booster; its not likely to change that much. Buy some 'happier' gas at the track think the going rate is 25/gallon?

If interested in fuel injector cleaner; its likely to clean the tank before the detergants ever enter the injectors.

Using a fuel injector rail cleaner(at a shop) runs the bike w the direct cleaner and gasoline from the machine. That's your best bet if you feel your bike needs it.
You might be surprised to find that oxygenated VP (or other brands) are actually not that much more expensive, and not $25/ gal.

I think the last time I got a 5 gallon can, it was around $50(?).
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With your current fueling, octane will not help make more power, or run cleaner. It will run SLIGHTLY cooler, just a little, with a higher octane fuel. Even then your probably running the wrong temp range spark plugs for the higher octane.

Oxygenated fuel will make much more power over pump gas. It runs $15/gal. To get the most out of the race fuel, you will need to remap/rejet for the fuel.

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You might be surprised to find that oxygenated VP (or other brands) are actually not that much more expensive, and not $25/ gal.

I think the last time I got a 5 gallon can, it was around $50(?).
lol, you have not bought it in a while....lol
it is $75 for 5 gallons now
Thats still better than MR9 (AMA fuel) at $110/5 gallons
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lol, you have not bought it in a while....lol
it is $75 for 5 gallons now
Thats still better than MR9 (AMA fuel) at $110/5 gallons
Yeah, I know... been running pump with the new bike, don't have the built engine like our endurance bike has, so haven't needed the fuel!

You're still selling the VP right?
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Yeah, I know... been running pump with the new bike, don't have the built engine like our endurance bike has, so haven't needed the fuel!

You're still selling the VP right?
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:22 PM   #15
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what does high octane have to do with the cleaning abilities of gas?
He's probably of the mindset from years back when they ONLY put the cleansing agent in premium octane. Well, everyone except Chevron. These days, they put it in all of their toys. On a bike that new, you don't have dirty injectors and won't any time soon.
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i use sea foam from time to time
Recently got some Sea Foam to try. See if it'll clean the carbs a bit.
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...not on an 09 right?
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...not on an 09 right?
Haven't you heard by now? Yamaha's developed some super duper new carbs that are better than FI. Sea Foam acts like NOS with the new carbs, but you didn't hear that from me.
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because of all the extra oxygen that the foam retains, right?
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