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Old 07-17-2008, 10:21 AM   #21
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I generally concur with Jody on this. I've logged a lot of race miles with both GP and standard shift patterns, sometimes back to back on the same day, and lean towards the standard pattern by a slight amount. Not every club racer uses the GP shift pattern; not every pro uses the GP pattern. That said, when I raced Yamaha TZs and Honda RSs, the GP shift pattern was more natural due to the geometry of the peg position. On production-based bikes, it's a wash for me.
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It's a matter of preference. I switch from gp to regular a few times during the year. At first it is a bit weird but after a bit you can go from one to the other like nothing.

With gp it is easier to up shift while leaned over. Standard is easier to complete multiple downshifts while braking for a corner.
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Another vote for standard shift here. I didnt see any reason to try to relearn how to shift when I got to the track. I used my time to try and learn to ride.
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Yuo guys are idiots! That little sticker on the tank/triple tree that says "Warning! GP Shift" is worth at least a few seconds on your lap time(s).


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gotta call BS on that
you don't gear for a corner, you gear for a lap and whilst you may not want to be changing mid corner sometimes it's inevitable and part of comprimising for a better lap time and that don't make you an idiot in my book.

GP or Traditional, all down to rider preference.
AND HOW MANY RACE LAPS HAVE U TURNED PERSONALLY ?
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It's a matter of preference. I switch from gp to regular a few times during the year. At first it is a bit weird but after a bit you can go from one to the other like nothing.

With gp it is easier to up shift while leaned over. Standard is easier to complete multiple downshifts while braking for a corner.
and i wonder who explained that one to ya.... hmmmmm ?
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I believe it's all about preference, too. I've switched to GP on mine and only used it on the street since, and I really like it. I've spent enough time on it now that it's second nature.

I would recommend trying it out on the street at a leisurely pace first, for a little while. It would be pretty nasty to downshift coming out of a turn expecting an upshift.
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and i wonder who explained that one to ya.... hmmmmm ?
I discussed it with some honky dude one day but already knew it. Its kind of obvious. Don't you agree honky?
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I discussed it with some honky dude one day but already knew it. Its kind of obvious. Don't you agree honky?
then why were u asking me about it that day if it was so obvious ?
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then why were u asking me about it that day if it was so obvious ?
Getting your opinion a-hole!
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AND HOW MANY RACE LAPS HAVE U TURNED PERSONALLY ?
i think he has quite a few
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i think he has quite a few
i wasnt askin u
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Getting your opinion a-hole!
but you know everything already what does it matter what i think ? im an . why would u give a what an thought ?
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but you know everything already what does it matter what i think ? im an . why would u give a what an thought ?
Yeah your right. I guess it was I was just bored and wanted to see you would come up with a witty answer. Cheap entertainment
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Yeah your right. I guess it was I was just bored and wanted to see you would come up with a witty answer. Cheap entertainment
i guess thats all im good for these days... cheap entertainment
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Lol still down eh?
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Lol still down eh?
nah... ive had my herbal medicine
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You can't just flip stuff over on the Triumph Daytona. The shift rod runs thru a hole in the frame. Woodcraft has a rearset that will reverse the pattern. It takes an extra set of linkage to reverse the pattern and it requires a lot more pressure on the lever to get the shifting accomplished.

I speak from experience on this one. I have them and removed them after a couple months of riding. I much prefer the factory set up. However, if you are determined to try it, I will make you a heck of a deal on a lightly used set of "06-07 Triumph 675 Daytona Woodcraft GP Shift Rearsets w/ both pedals".
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i didn't and still don't care. I was answering you
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I will make you a heck of a deal on a lightly used set of "06-07 Triumph 675 Daytona Woodcraft GP Shift Rearsets w/ both pedals".
Sweet deal there if you want to try it.


Like it has been hashed out many times, it's a preference. I "learned" GP shift when I got on an endurance team that had the bike set up that way. Didn't take long to get used to it, and I still use it on my track bike- I personally like it.

As far as "shifting in a corner", if you take the term literally, Jody's right, you shouldn't have to do that. My term or analogy I use for "upshifting in a corner" is more for those fast/ long bends that really aren't "turns", or when you're coming out of a corner while still leaned over (not a full cranked over lean) and upshift. My size 12 boots don't like to be under the shifter in those situations...

As far as the comments about the number of "fast" guys that don't use GP shift, there are a proportional number of them that do (and no, I'm not counting myself there )
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