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Old 07-11-2008, 02:32 PM   #1
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Aight folks I am gonna throw my pride out the window and ask a question that is somewhat hard for me to throw out there.

For what ever reason I have no approaching a corner in respects to speed. I am fine hauling through the corner, exit and straight. However, I slow down way early when I approach a corner.... I don't get it, can't make myself drive into the corner further before I start braking, down shift, and then cut in (no slipper clutch and I am somewhat smooth but I am working on it)....

How do you beat this wussy problem? I admit that I am not a long time motorcycle rider but seriously, I should be able to overcome this right? Am I the only one that has this problem? How do other folks work through this? I should add that I have only been to 2 track days.

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Here are some pictures from last weekend at ECR on 7/5. Thanks Jen you rock!
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:34 PM   #2
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Aight folks I am gonna throw my pride out the window and ask a question that is somewhat hard for me to throw out there.

For what ever reason I have no approaching the corner in respects to speed. I am fine hauling through the corner, exit and straight. However, I slow down way early when I approach a corner.... I don't get it, can't make myself drive into the corner further before I start braking....

How do you beat this wussy problem? I admit that I am not a long time motorcycle rider but seriously, I should be able to overcome this right? Am I the only one that has this problem? How do other folks work through this? I must add that I have only been to 2 track days.

Help!

Here are some pictures from last weekend at ECR on 7/5. Thanks Jen you rock!

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you just have to stay in the gas, and learn your braking points. It's a mental block that you have to overcome, and push yourself until you find the right braking point. Just like approaching turn 3 @ ECR, you know that you have plenty of time to hit the brakes once you crest the hill, but you have to make yourself stay in the gas until you get to the top because it's too easy to brake early because you can't see the corner.


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Old 07-11-2008, 02:36 PM   #4
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MAn, that is everybody's fear. I would suggest learning to go deeper in only at the track. And just pick one or two corner to work on each lap and brake just a little bit later each lap.

Do you trail brake at all?
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:39 PM   #6
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By the way, you did great this weekend
Thanks brotha man, forgot to say thanks to the entire gang! But THANKS !!! you guys were all awesome and i had a blast!

You going to be at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on the 19th? I will be!
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Thanks brotha man, forgot to say thanks to the entire gang! But THANKS !!! you guys were all awesome and i had a blast!

You going to be at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on the 19th? I will be!
Of course! I'll be there both days. Looking forward to riding with you again
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:50 PM   #9
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MAn, that is everybody's fear. I would suggest learning to go deeper in only at the track. And just pick one or two corner to work on each lap and brake just a little bit later each lap.

Do you trail brake at all?
Yes, but only when i think (aka fear) I am too fast when I cut in....

I need to work on my suspension because the rebound rate on my rear shock is really fast so it makes trail braking washy (if thats the right term) Basically the rear end springs up and I really have to work to keep the bike smooth. I don't know if I am saying that right but I do trail brake but out of fear more than planning.
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seat time....follow someone who's faster (not a lot faster) and learn their breaking points, this gives you a better idea of when to get on it....Personally I see guys that brake way too early. Heck, I'm probably like that to the fast guys. Just comes with practice and seat time.
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Hey, you were one of the guys that ran-off in my corner(3), right? Recognise the bike, you were looking really good out there.
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The quickest way I found to overcome the entry speed fear is to start racing. My whole mindset changes when I have someone in front of me that I know I can pass.
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Maybe it's the bike. I had the same problem on my '07 Daytona. I took it to TWS (Texas World Speedway) with 800 miles on the odometer. All I could think about was throwing it down the track.

Paid cash for a tracked out SV-650 and now I don't have any problems outriding my capabilities in the corners. Proved it twice now. Good thing is the 650 lowsides well with a minimum of damage. A foot peg here and a clutch lever there and go do it again.
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Hey, you were one of the guys that ran-off in my corner(3), right? Recognise the bike, you were looking really good out there.
I totally did! I have no idea why all of a sudden I fixed on that line

I think the afternoon was a break thru for me... in the morning I am sure I looked like a one eyed monkey escaping from the zoo on a two wheeled circus bike

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Maybe it's the bike. I had the same problem on my '07 Daytona. I took it to TWS (Texas World Speedway) with 800 miles on the odometer. All I could think about was throwing it down the track.

Paid cash for a tracked out SV-650 and now I don't have any problems outriding my capabilities in the corners. Proved it twice now. Good thing is the 650 lowsides well with a minimum of damage. A foot peg here and a clutch lever there and go do it again.
ka ching, start small..........

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Maybe it's the bike. I had the same problem on my '07 Daytona. I took it to TWS (Texas World Speedway) with 800 miles on the odometer. All I could think about was throwing it down the track.

Paid cash for a tracked out SV-650 and now I don't have any problems outriding my capabilities in the corners. Proved it twice now. Good thing is the 650 lowsides well with a minimum of damage. A foot peg here and a clutch lever there and go do it again.
My bike had 1100 miles on it my first pass at TWS (Texas World Speedway). The rear end was alllllllll over the freaking place, kinda feels like it could wash out at any time. Takes some getting used to that is for sure. I love the low end torque though, and it really kicks on exits. Lacks a little on the top but I don't really use it.

I am starting to wonder about the bike vs the rider, but I know the rider sucks in this case so until I can prove otherwise I am gonna operate under the assumption it is me. I will blame the bike later . I screw up enough to point the finger my way for a while.
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Chad (code name = MagicMan) went off at the same place. Rashed up his RC51. Did you do much damage to the bike? I didn't see you actually go off, looked back an saw you standing in the grass couldn't see the bike at all.
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