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Old 07-05-2008, 03:28 PM   #21
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HiLo or Autozone should have it, the one in Jersey Village does for sure. Red/white can on the same shelf as the fuel treatments and octane booster.
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And if that is the problem, you need to step up to a better grade of gas for the summer, until they pull the ethanol back come fall.
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And if that is the problem, you need to step up to a better grade of gas for the summer, until they pull the ethanol back come fall.
eh? really?


I was wondering who to sue when all my gas driven toys and equipment craps out due to ethanol in the gas and not having the proper rubber/plastic/hard parts as needed.
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eh? really?


I was wondering who to sue when all my gas driven toys and equipment craps out due to ethanol in the gas and not having the proper rubber/plastic/hard parts as needed.

good luck.... FI bikes don't seem to really get bothered with all this mess. It seems more of a cab bike issue. and the ninja 250's seem particularly affected cause or their tiny jets.
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yeah, good luck with that... 100% compatible with all fuel systems... my


oh, and Blue91, a 2A trickle charger is fine, as long has it has an auto shutdown and won't go over 12V.
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good luck.... FI bikes don't seem to really get bothered with all this mess. It seems more of a cab bike issue. and the ninja 250's seem particularly affected cause or their tiny jets.
Due to the float bowls allowing the ethanol corn dust to settle out... whereas FI runs a higher pressure, recirculates all the time, and doesn't have float bowls or tiny idle jets to clog up.

Not just the Ninjettes.. I have seen plenty of Bandits on Maxzuki having similar issues.
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HiLo or Autozone should have it, the one in Jersey Village does for sure. Red/white can on the same shelf as the fuel treatments and octane booster.
hi lo lol thats old skool. now its oreilly's
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hi lo lol thats old skool. now its oreilly's

I still say hi/lo as well.... screw o'reilleys,lol
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good luck.... FI bikes don't seem to really get bothered with all this mess. It seems more of a cab bike issue. and the ninja 250's seem particularly affected cause or their tiny jets.
Saying to sue was more of a figure of speech than anything else. I am just not a big fan of the E85 fuel when a vast majority of vehicles out there suffer from it in some form or fashion from my personal experience. Be it cars, boats, bikes, whatever.

the generator I just bought a few days back has a clear statement that using fuel with high levels of ethanol will not be covered under warranty for damage.

That says something to me right there regardless, but without a practicle solution for different fuel we are left to deal with it anyways.
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I just run the plain ol 10% ethanol. I understand where your coming from though.
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Alright, now that you say that I am thinking for some reason the normal gas now was higher than 10%.... Been a while since I paid attention at the pump, it hurts too much to see prices.
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Alright, now that you say that I am thinking for some reason the normal gas now was higher than 10%.... Been a while since I paid attention at the pump, it hurts too much to see prices.

regular gas is 10% and e85 is well...85%. they make everything in between but not around these parts. The 10% ethanol is still enough to draw in moisture and jack with stuff though.
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Cool, I had a brain lapse for a bit there.


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Ok, just got back from riding it. I put the seafoam in it and rode out 290 to Badtke road and back. Of course, that's like 1/2 gallon on the Ninja250 so I doubt the seafoam had a chance to do much.

It sounds simple... "sure, the carb is dirty... pull it off and clean it out". Yeah, simple for some, not for others. How "far" do I have to pull them apart? do I need to remove and "needles" or floats or whatever? I don't know about carbs and I know they have a ton of moving parts in them and I really don't want to risk them up more. Do I have to use a new gasket when I put the carb back on or is it a reusable gasket?

Ugh, this sucks. I wanted to ride with my wife now that we're done with our wedding and we can't b/c her bike won't freakin' run correctly. Anyone want to come by tomorrow and help walk me through cleaning these things out?
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Ok, just got back from riding it. I put the seafoam in it and rode out 290 to Badtke road and back. Of course, that's like 1/2 gallon on the Ninja250 so I doubt the seafoam had a chance to do much.

It sounds simple... "sure, the carb is dirty... pull it off and clean it out". Yeah, simple for some, not for others. How "far" do I have to pull them apart? do I need to remove and "needles" or floats or whatever? I don't know about carbs and I know they have a ton of moving parts in them and I really don't want to risk them up more. Do I have to use a new gasket when I put the carb back on or is it a reusable gasket?

Ugh, this sucks. I wanted to ride with my wife now that we're done with our wedding and we can't b/c her bike won't freakin' run correctly. Anyone want to come by tomorrow and help walk me through cleaning these things out?
I can prob. help you tomorrow if you want .
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Not bad.. four screws (which can be a biyatch to get loose, impact driver is your friend) remove the float bowls. Should see a pair of jets, smaller is the idle. Remove jets, Blow some brake cleaner (I prefer brake clean over carb clean because it evaporates with no residue) thru jets and passages in carbs, then follow with compressed air. Reassemble and roll.

Wouldn't hurt to go to Ron Ayers or Bike Bandit and print out the schematic of the carbs for reference. Bowl gasket is like an o-ring and is reusable.

Also, sometimes just sitting overnight will allow the Seafoam to soak in and break loose whatever the obstruction is.
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You're talking once the carbs are off, right? Wtf do the "float bowls" look like?

Is this something I could get the dealer to do with warranty or would they not cover it since it's not "kawi's fault" ( gas gumming up apparently)?
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it is real easy to remove the carbs on a 250. the trick is to know which holes to clean out. I had to do mine twice cause I didn't get the right holes the first time.
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Always best to get the right hole the first time...
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