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View Poll Results: Gear Law & Helmet Law
SHOULD BE required for everyones benefit and overall safety of motorcycling community 44 50.00%
SHOULD NOT required, everyeone should be free to ride without gear or helmets 40 45.45%
I really don't know where I stand, would have to hear the arguments before deciding 4 4.55%
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Old 06-28-2008, 11:10 AM   #61
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I think everybody against and or voting for "should not" never had to take care of an accident loved one who was involved in a motorcycle accident sans gear.
That might change your view and stance a bit.

This had to be said even if it is besides the point.
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just to clarify .... there was no option on this poll.... gear as in jackets and boots etc... I don't think should be made into law but I am definetly pro helmet law. it is true that in some rare cases a helmet contributes to an injury just like a seat belt has been know to cause injury and even death, but those are the exception to the rule. By far the safety devices greatly increase you odds wether you like them or not. I know in my case in both accidents( 1 car, 1 bike) seatbelts and FULL gear saved my bacon. My injuries would have been much, much more severe had I not have been using them.
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But don't you agree that it should be improved upon?
of course it should be improved upon.... but I also think that is where the advances course comes into play. Alot of surviving on the street has to do with learning to control YOUR bike. learning on a little bike is all good and all but if you hop on a bike bike at the end of the day and you have idea how to control it, ride it or how it reacts under emergency situations then it is all useless info you just recieved. That is why I send my wife to track days and constantly try to learn and improve my abilities... you can never learn too much when it comes to motorcycle control and manuvering.
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voted shouldnt be but....i wear mine

maybe gear gets you a discount on insurance?

i dont think gov should be able to tell you to wear seatbelt either but i still wear mine
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I thought that is what is already taking place? Not working out so well is it?
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of course it should be improved upon.... but I also think that is where the advances course comes into play. Alot of surviving on the street has to do with learning to control YOUR bike. learning on a little bike is all good and all but if you hop on a bike bike at the end of the day and you have idea how to control it, ride it or how it reacts under emergency situations then it is all useless info you just recieved. That is why I send my wife to track days and constantly try to learn and improve my abilities... you can never learn too much when it comes to motorcycle control and manuvering.
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Well you stand corrected.

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I think everybody against and or voting for "should not" never had to take care of an accident loved one who was involved in a motorcycle accident sans gear.
That might change your view and stance a bit.

This had to be said even if it is besides the point.
I was privileged to observe my best friend "sans gear" pull up the wheel on his YZ490 in 2nd, shift to 3rd, slip 4th, round a curve to pop 5th gear -gas it up to around 85ish and finally LOOP IT right on his head!
Of coarse I was the first to the scene so I was the lucky one to hold his head together and keep him from damaging himself more from seizures and watch him releive himself in seizure until life fight got there 45 min. later.
There were no areas without road rash (some to the bone) and several broken bones including his skull in 3 places.
He did die 3 times in route to Hermann, was revived every time and stayed unconscious for 3 days.
To this day WE still ride together "sans gear" on occasion and I have forced him to wear a helmet when he rides my Warp machine but when I gear up I get called a Pu&&y....LOL!

It is a choice!
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I was privileged to observe my best friend "sans gear" pull up the wheel on his YZ490 in 2nd, shift to 3rd, slip 4th, round a curve to pop 5th gear -gas it up to around 85ish and finally LOOP IT right on his head!
Of coarse I was the first to the scene so I was the lucky one to hold his head together and keep him from damaging himself more from seizures and watch him releive himself in seizure until life fight got there 45 min. later.
There were no areas without road rash (some to the bone) and several broken bones including his skull in 3 places.
He did die 3 times in route to Hermann, was revived every time and stayed unconscious for 3 days.
To this day WE still ride together "sans gear" on occasion and I have forced him to wear a helmet when he rides my Warp machine but when I gear up I get called a Pu&&y....LOL!

It is a choice!
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To this day WE still ride together "sans gear" on occasion and I have forced him to wear a helmet when he rides my Warp machine but when I gear up I get called a Pu&&y....LOL!

It is a choice!

no offense dude.... but if your "buddy" calls you a puzzy for wearing a helmet then you need to find a new friend. especially after you were a good friend and held his brains together. You would think after what happened to him that he would not want the same thing happening to you.
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no offense dude.... but if your "buddy" calls you a puzzy for wearing a helmet then you need to find a new friend. especially after you were a good friend and held his brains together. You would think after what happened to him that he would not want the same thing happening to you.
thats a pretty retarded statement...
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I was privileged to observe my best friend "sans gear" pull up the wheel on his YZ490 in 2nd, shift to 3rd, slip 4th, round a curve to pop 5th gear -gas it up to around 85ish and finally LOOP IT right on his head!
Of coarse I was the first to the scene so I was the lucky one to hold his head together and keep him from damaging himself more from seizures and watch him releive himself in seizure until life fight got there 45 min. later.
There were no areas without road rash (some to the bone) and several broken bones including his skull in 3 places.
He did die 3 times in route to Hermann, was revived every time and stayed unconscious for 3 days.
To this day WE still ride together "sans gear" on occasion and I have forced him to wear a helmet when he rides my Warp machine but when I gear up I get called a Pu&&y....LOL!

It is a choice!
I have a similar story but I will let Bignmz04 (the immediate victim) and the person who is the biggest proponent for the right to wear or not wear gear tell it.

I guess all the people who crash without gear are the ones who are the loudest "personal rights" supporters or something?
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thats a pretty retarded statement...
why... If my friend called me a puss for wearing my gear I would tell em to go off. Im my world friends support their bros decision. I am not one to give under peer pressure.
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no offense dude.... but if your "buddy" calls you a puzzy for wearing a helmet then you need to find a new friend. especially after you were a good friend and held his brains together. You would think after what happened to him that he would not want the same thing happening to you.
Yea it's all in fun... he knows where I stand on the issue - It's all good!
I think I've known the guy for over 22 yrs.
LOL! That's longer than some of you are old.
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Yea it's all in fun... he knows where I stand on the issue - It's all good!
that's cool... I understand friendly ribbing.... but you know there are weak minded peeps out there that fall for that and do silly stuff they know they shouldn't.
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why... If my friend called me a puss for wearing my gear I would tell em to go off. Im my world friends support their bros decision. I am not one to give under peer pressure.
id jus tell him "yep, im a big ol sloppy puzzy" and smile cause my friends only say like that jokingly. i dont know what kinda dipshit friends u hang with. but me and my bros call each other names and with each other all the time. no harm done. maybe u need to come over and take a hit off the piece pipe homie, cause with a statement like that id say ur a little uptight
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no... not uptight just realistic. I have left body parts on mykawa road before... I take this seriously.
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no... not uptight just realistic. I have left body parts on mykawa road before... I take this seriously.
dude, so do i. ive watched my friends die before (why do u think i havent riddin on the street in 15 years). but i still believe in the old saying "to each their own". im not gonna get up on the soapbox and preach. they are adults. they can make their own decisions.
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dude, so do i. ive watched my friends die before (why do u think i havent riddin on the street in 15 years). but i still believe in the old saying "to each their own". im not gonna get up on the soapbox and preach. they are adults. they can make their own decisions.

that is where the helmet law gets complex and there hasn't been a good fix to the situation. you believe to each his own and I believe in helmet laws. welcome to the discussion. call it a soapbox if you want. I'll preach gear to all my friends. always have, always will. Why do you wear gear on the track? Because you want to or because you have to just to ride? If track riding is so much safer then riding street why would you want less gear for something more dangerous?
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I think everybody against and or voting for "should not" never had to take care of an accident loved one who was involved in a motorcycle accident sans gear.
That might change your view and stance a bit.

This had to be said even if it is besides the point.

sorry,but that loved one knew/know what the risks were/are before they purchased the bike and what to expect. after being in my line of work for so long,i'm numb to all the bike accidents i see. if you are to stubborn or bullheaded to wear a helmet,respect the bike,ride like a person with sense,then i can't feel sorry for nor try to protect such people.
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