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View Poll Results: Gear Law & Helmet Law
SHOULD BE required for everyones benefit and overall safety of motorcycling community 44 50.00%
SHOULD NOT required, everyeone should be free to ride without gear or helmets 40 45.45%
I really don't know where I stand, would have to hear the arguments before deciding 4 4.55%
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:32 AM   #21
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agreed Melissa but lets look at just the laws requiring active and passive safety devices.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:34 AM   #22
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on the suject at hand, not just rules and regulations, seatbelts are not required in vehicles that have more than 2 rear wheels and have a maximum rated carrying capacity of 1 ton or over
You were miss led on this; Weather I'm hauling 16, 32, or 48 wheels behind me- 5,000# or 50,000# I will still get a ticket if caught without a seat belt.
It sux but DOT has to have a annual BBQ!
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Is it the control issue everyone has the problem with? being told what safty devices to use or not??
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Is it the control issue everyone has the problem with?
I think that people use the control issue as a thinly veiled shield over the fact that they would rather not have to wear gear in the heat, or pose, and want to be able to do it legally and or without scorn.
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You were miss led on this; Weather I'm hauling 16, 32, or 48 wheels behind me- 5,000# or 50,000# I will still get a ticket if caught without a seat belt.
It sux but DOT has to have a annual BBQ!
You sir, are correct.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:39 AM   #26
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I think that people use the control issue as a thinly veiled shield over the fact that they would rather not have to wear gear in the heat, or pose, and want to be able to do it legally and or without scorn.
What I find amusing is the fact that some gearless-wonders actually get offended when gear subject is brought up.
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What I would propose will not control you, but an educated individual will most likely make sound decisions regarding their safety.
I'm cool with that!
I don't think anyone here has seen me without my gear but I ride how I want when I want...there are pictures
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What I find amusing is the fact that some gearless-wonders actually get offended when gear subject is brought up.
Saw it happen at Republic Harley once.
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Saw it happen at Republic Harley once.
I've seen it happen way too much.
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You were miss led on this; Weather I'm hauling 16, 32, or 48 wheels behind me- 5,000# or 50,000# I will still get a ticket if caught without a seat belt.
It sux but DOT has to have a annual BBQ!
by US DOT that may be completely corrct but under Texas law you are not reqiured to wear a seatbelt if your driving a vehicle that meets my previous, and nor are you required if you are operating an emergency vehicle or vehicle that makes frequent stops such as meter reader vehicles, however most cities and fire/ems departments and companies do have internal seatbelt requirements, but lets not hijack the thread

nuff said LOL
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I've seen it happen way too much.
It was my fault though. I should not have asked for the SNELL and DOT ratings for the bandannas.
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i'm with jp171. i've been in ems for 13years and work in the er at utmb. to be honest,in some cases,the helmet actually caused more damage or killed the the person. in regards to the police officer that died,a helmet wouldn't have matter. i personally wear my helmet at all times with gloves. i wear my jacket about 60% of the time during the day in the summer. always jeans or riding pants. i didn't vote because the choices should have been more clear.

full gear
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in this case,i think all should wear atleast a helmet. the other stuff you can literally live without.
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More Stats, study conducted by the University of Southern California
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It was my fault though. I should not have asked for the SNELL and DOT ratings for the bandannas.


That is darn funny. I really don't understand the lack of wanting to wear a helmet. I feel naked without my gear.... completely like I'm almost riding in the nude, since pretty much you are. Jeans don't hold up to nothing!
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i'm with jp171. i've been in ems for 13years and work in the er at utmb. to be honest,in some cases,the helmet actually caused more damage or killed the the person. in regards to the police officer that died,a helmet wouldn't have matter. i personally wear my helmet at all times with gloves. i wear my jacket about 60% of the time during the day in the summer. always jeans or riding pants. i didn't vote because the choices should have been more clear.

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in this case,i think all should wear atleast a helmet. the other stuff you can literally live without.

Yeah, this debate isn't about WHICH gear should consititue wearing etc, but about REQUIRING it, that's why i worded it that way. Another thread could debate the need for overpants...
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Yeah, this debate isn't about WHICH gear should consititue wearing etc, but about REQUIRING it, that's why i worded it that way. Another thread could debate the need for overpants...
okay,fair enough.
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by US DOT that may be completely corrct but under Texas law you are not reqiured to wear a seatbelt if your driving a vehicle that meets my previous, and nor are you required if you are operating an emergency vehicle or vehicle that makes frequent stops such as meter reader vehicles, however most cities and fire/ems departments and companies do have internal seatbelt requirements, but lets not hijack the thread

nuff said LOL
Whether or not it's Texas law or DOT, you're still operating on roads paid for by the state of Texas. That makes it illegal to operate above those conditions.
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I always wear gear, but I will never vote for any type of law requiring me, or anyone else to wear it. I believe strongly in the freedom of choice.
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hey... we've hit 2 pages this morning.... only 18 more to go minimum.... :-)
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