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Old 06-29-2008, 02:09 PM   #41
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I applaud this. Every tome I come home on the bike going I45S some drunk SOB pulls into my lane. Every single time.
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Saving lives isn't justified?

Explain that one, Socrates!
easy. the simple term "saving lives" is very broad. from that standpoint, anything deemed "saving lives" gives government power to use any means needed to do so. that would conclude that making people stop doing anything potentially harmfull illegal. smoking kills ( I smoke very moderately) eating bad food (donuts) drinking at home, riding wheelies, all of these if stopped would save lives.
for the record, I have a drink in public about twice a year, and I don't drive drunk. I hate seeing idiots kill innocent people as much as the rest of you do. as a former popo I worked horrific accidents caused by alcohol, lack of sleep, distraction, and general stupidity.

hence, the end does not justify the means.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:57 PM   #45
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My 02 cents don't drive and drink period.... I have 2 just at 10 years apart first one cost me my job and $ 10.000 dollars and the one in 1989 and the last one in 1999 wich cost me around $ 15.000 dollars. many thats 2 sport bikes paid for there and I still got convicked both times..and did 100 days on the last on in the harris county hilton no fun at all
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easy. the simple term "saving lives" is very broad. from that standpoint, anything deemed "saving lives" gives government power to use any means needed to do so. that would conclude that making people stop doing anything potentially harmfull illegal. smoking kills ( I smoke very moderately) eating bad food (donuts) drinking at home, riding wheelies, all of these if stopped would save lives.
for the record, I have a drink in public about twice a year, and I don't drive drunk. I hate seeing idiots kill innocent people as much as the rest of you do. as a former popo I worked horrific accidents caused by alcohol, lack of sleep, distraction, and general stupidity.

hence, the end does not justify the means.
But as stated previously. You agreed to these terms when you signed for a drivers license. You gave up the right to refuse a blood test. If you didn't agree you should have not signed.
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easy. the simple term "saving lives" is very broad. from that standpoint, anything deemed "saving lives" gives government power to use any means needed to do so. that would conclude that making people stop doing anything potentially harmfull illegal. smoking kills ( I smoke very moderately) eating bad food (donuts) drinking at home, riding wheelies, all of these if stopped would save lives.
for the record, I have a drink in public about twice a year, and I don't drive drunk. I hate seeing idiots kill innocent people as much as the rest of you do. as a former popo I worked horrific accidents caused by alcohol, lack of sleep, distraction, and general stupidity.

hence, the end does not justify the means.
This thread is quite specific... IT IS ABOUT DRUNKEN DRIVING, which causes fatal accidents... I'm not discussing seatbelts, speeding, racing, eating donuts (which I do ALOT!) etc...

Argue about an overall oppressive govt in another thread (I don't disagree with you on that topic; I'll jump in and support you there).

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ok, well my point is that I find this "no refusal" repressive. this makes the guy behind the machine a judge. I'm not condoning driving drunk. I just don't like to see a law such as this, it gives the police WAY to much power. and no one, I mean no one drives drunker than cops. yup, I let that one out of the bag. masterbadge is what we used to call it. you trying to tell me you arrest every cop you've stopped who had a few beers? nope, professional courtesy extended. not you, I'm talking about the guys I have worked with, and went to schools with.
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ok, well my point is that I find this "no refusal" repressive. this makes the guy behind the machine a judge. I'm not condoning driving drunk. I just don't like to see a law such as this, it gives the police WAY to much power. and no one, I mean no one drives drunker than cops. yup, I let that one out of the bag. masterbadge is what we used to call it. you trying to tell me you arrest every cop you've stopped who had a few beers? nope, professional courtesy extended. not you, I'm talking about the guys I have worked with, and went to schools with.
An RN takes the blood, not teh po-po...

Yeah, everyone knows alot cops are drunks...

I'm telling you I don't arrest anyone for a few beers, just the people who are FUKKED up...
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Death penalty for Drunk drivers. Lost friends because of stupid A$$ drunk drivers. Drink were you can stay or have a DD. If not I hope you die instead of innocent people. They have ruined my friends families and I know longer will see them again. So think before you get in a car and forbid you get on a bike.
I dont drink period. I am 100% sober. Long story. So I dont have to worry about this. But check this out. Back in the day, we were all out drinking. I was wasted, had drank way to much JD sour mash (the green label ). So I am in the back of the mustang, passed out. The driver, not drunk, makes an illegal turn and gets pulled over. I go to jail. Public Intoxication. Waddup with that?
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If you don't want your civil rights "violated" don't drive fukked up...

The majority of people here understand, but for those that don't... my signature says "PROFESSIONAL BABYSITTER" for a reason.

I totally agree. I have no tolerance for drunk driving. I usually let people do their thing, but I WILL call the popo when I see a drunk driver. Did it last month on 34th.
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I dont drink period. I am 100% sober. Long story. So I dont have to worry about this. But check this out. Back in the day, we were all out drinking. I was wasted, had drank way to much JD sour mash (the green label ). So I am in the back of the mustang, passed out. The driver, not drunk, makes an illegal turn and gets pulled over. I go to jail. Public Intoxication. Waddup with that?
Coulda/woulda/shoulda fought that one... a jury woulda thrown it out.

Don't see how that fits "a danger to himself or others"...
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i think this is a serious civil rights violation.
As an american i have every right to celebrate my americanism and plow through groups of pedestrians while chugging on a fifth of jack as i well please.
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