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Old 06-26-2008, 07:35 PM   #1
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Mother of All Bombshells: Manufacturers Considering Rival Series

This just in from the Motorcycle Industry Council, which encompasses all of the OEMS here in the United States:


Motorcycle Industry Council Evaluating Issuance of
Request for Proposal for U.S. Road Racing Series

IRVINE, Calif., June 26, 2008 - The Motorcycle Industry Council, on behalf of its 300-plus members, is evaluating whether to issue a request for proposal seeking a series promoter and sanctioning body for a premier professional road racing series in the United States.

"Our members are better served by having alternatives to the changes for the AMA Superbike Championship that the Daytona Motorsports Group has so far described," said MIC President Tim Buche. "We fully appreciate the expertise, hard work and connections the DMG may bring to motorcycling. However, the independent interests of the manufacturers call for a racing series that helps promote specific motorcycle brands. Historically, motorcycle makers have boosted bike sales based on their success in racing. It makes little sense for bike manufacturers to heavily invest in any competition that highlights sponsors and teams and downplays the machines themselves, as well as their technological development. So we are obliged to investigate alternatives that could do a better job of meeting our members' respective marketing needs. This is especially true given that it's now late June and there is still uncertainty over the DMG's 2009 rules."

The MIC intends to consider input from key industry stakeholders including racetrack owners, riders, interested sponsors, and enthusiast and trade media.

The MIC wants a racing series that best promotes rider safety, competition, innovation, racetrack attendance, television viewership and ridership. The MIC also wants a championship that ultimately benefits the consumer - an exciting, popular series that develops new technology that finds its way to production motorcycles. The series should be clearly recognized as the top level of U.S. road racing, drawing both world-class riders and upcoming stars.

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Old 06-26-2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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dmg. the ama already destroyed the daytona 200 now dmg wants to destroy mc racing so everybody will wanna watch nascrap instead
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Going to be tuned into this. Fun to watch, sad to see.
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They can say that they just now started to consider this all they want "in light of recent events", but there were grumblings and threats of this just as soon as DMG made the announcements that they were taking over AMA.

What are the manufacturers going to do? DMG owns all the TV rights and have commitments from sponsors, they (the sponsors) are going to go where the TV is
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Sounds like we'll have a US Superbike that parallels ASB and BSB. I, for one, don't have a problem with it. This country needs it. We DON'T need NASBIKE.
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NASBIKE ... yeah that would suck! I hate NASCAR ... and I know I am gonna hate NASBIKE.... I'll give it a chance ... but it don't look good.
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I predicted that the DMG 'plan' would drive the OEM's away. Suzuki rep said, in part, that the company would not participate in ANY American roadracing. What if this (as could be the case) means they cease their contingency program?
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They should keep the bikes and manufacturers as seperate as possible. I like all racing, asscar included (who else could I make fun of on their lame ways?). I would definitely hate for them to make all bikes identical and paint differences on. As they do in asscar. I understand trying to level the playing field but why would manufacturers continue imrproving on technology when it has nothing to do with bikes that are being raced. As in asscar with the car they pretend they want them to be.
Guess to race a bikes you'll have to wear a Hanz (sp) device and wear flame proof leathers that will have air bag deployment if their " safety issue " whiners step in.
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Guess to race a bikes you'll have to wear a Hanz (sp) device and wear flame proof leathers that will have air bag deployment if their " safety issue " whiners step in.
They do have a point on safety: compared to a lot of o the European tracks, the US tracks are . However, its the TRACKS that need to be made safer, not the bikes.
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They do have a point on safety: compared to a lot of o the European tracks, the US tracks are . However, its the TRACKS that need to be made safer, not the bikes.
True but the consideration, I would think the reason, eurapeein countries are socialist government countries that are willing to use tax dollars to throw at tracks. Alot of $$$$$$$$$$$$
Most U.S. tracks privately owned and still get killed with maintenance and taxes. Personally I would rather ride a track (to some extent) than have to put up with the rest.
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Competition is a good thing!

Why is it when something new or different comes into play everyone likes to discredit thier effort? I believe competition breeds excellence. Perhaps that is what the AMA needs is a little competitiion to wake thier up! I watch every weekend of the AMA series and it is extreemly boring watching the same bikes and racers up front. Something needs to be done. Don't let me get started on the Commentators. The commentation in World Superbike and MotoGP is much more intertaining than the AMA commentation. I can see how a person just becomming interested in the sport would just turn the TV off, if it were thier first time tunning in to a AMA Superbike race. Just maybe a little competition will bring new ideas and force someone to do something right for a change.
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Why is it when something new or different comes into play everyone likes to discredit thier effort? I believe competition breeds excellence. Perhaps that is what the AMA needs is a little competitiion to wake thier up! I watch every weekend of the AMA series and it is extreemly boring watching the same bikes and racers up front. Something needs to be done. Don't let me get started on the Commentators. The commentation in World Superbike and MotoGP is much more intertaining than the AMA commentation. I can see how a person just becomming interested in the sport would just turn the TV off, if it were thier first time tunning in to a AMA Superbike race. Just maybe a little competition will bring new ideas and force someone to do something right for a change.
It's not the competition that is the issue, because in essence, DMG is not competition- they are it.

The point that everyone who is opposed to DMG is trying to make in their own way can be surmised by looking at the recent track record of silly statement, proposed rules, and changes that DMG wants to make, and sometimes, they even contradict themselves or reverse their statements. Nobody likes that stuff.

IMHO, DMG could take an existing model, like WSBK, and go with that format turn-key. I wouldn't particularly like the spec tire, but the other rules are race friendly, as well as manufacturer friendly.

Silly publicity statements and proposals like DMG is putting out is the real problem. They need to learn when to make statements and when not to, as well as learn that change needs to be gradual lest you risk losing your existing viewership.

The manufacturers are just trying to pull cords and force an issue. Why would they leave an existing format in order to spend four times the amount of money to supposedly run their own series?

Just like the death of Indycar and American F1, these splits will consume the sport and never succeed if they can't learn to get along. It's also alike a new company coming in to an already saturated market, offering nothing new, and charging more money for it, with no experience doing it I know the people at DMG have some experience with motorcycle racing, but apparently, they haven't done their homework.

Personally, I don't think DMG cares if motorcycle road racing in the US survives or not.
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It's not the competition that is the issue, because in essence, DMG is not competition- they are it.

The point that everyone who is opposed to DMG is trying to make in their own way can be surmised by looking at the recent track record of silly statement, proposed rules, and changes that DMG wants to make, and sometimes, they even contradict themselves or reverse their statements. Nobody likes that stuff.

IMHO, DMG could take an existing model, like WSBK, and go with that format turn-key. I wouldn't particularly like the spec tire, but the other rules are race friendly, as well as manufacturer friendly.

Silly publicity statements and proposals like DMG is putting out is the real problem. They need to learn when to make statements and when not to, as well as learn that change needs to be gradual lest you risk losing your existing viewership.

The manufacturers are just trying to pull cords and force an issue. Why would they leave an existing format in order to spend four times the amount of money to supposedly run their own series?

Just like the death of Indycar and American F1, these splits will consume the sport and never succeed if they can't learn to get along. It's also alike a new company coming in to an already saturated market, offering nothing new, and charging more money for it, with no experience doing it I know the people at DMG have some experience with motorcycle racing, but apparently, they haven't done their homework.

Personally, I don't think DMG cares if motorcycle road racing in the US survives or not.
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Personally, I don't think DMG cares if motorcycle road racing in the US survives or not.
I highly doubt that DMG would spent time and money on something they had no intrest in. I may not know as much as you Mr. Smart Guy, but I do know this AMA racing now is pretty boring. I just wish it was a little more entertaining. Something different needs to be done, I don't have the answers and don't claim too either.
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I highly doubt that DMG would spent time and money on something they had no intrest in. I may not know as much as you Mr. Smart Guy, but I do know this AMA racing now is pretty boring. I just wish it was a little more entertaining. Something different needs to be done, I don't have the answers and don't claim too either.
You quote one part of my entire post, and come to this conclusion?

If you know something has to be done, what are your suggestions? You can't know something is wrong without knowing what should happen differently.

Calm yourself, it's just an opinion, and I wasn't attacking you- it's a internet debate for 's sake.
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True but the consideration, I would think the reason, eurapeein countries are socialist government countries that are willing to use tax dollars to throw at tracks. Alot of $$$$$$$$$$$$
Most U.S. tracks privately owned and still get killed with maintenance and taxes. Personally I would rather ride a track (to some extent) than have to put up with the rest.
You sure about that? I know Shanghai is state-owned, but I think the rest are private
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I am almost....almost certain, Assen, Misano, Phillip Island & Motegi are all state owned....or built with govt money
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ALL major sport venues in the world are build in majority with government money...including ALL the ones in Houston, Texas and the US.

Houston tax payers forked out over 1,000,000,000 USD for "Reliant Stadium" , "Minute Maid" and "Toyota Center" were a little less.

Do not get me wrong, they are private venues...build with state funds...like Assen, Phill Isle...etc.

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ALL major sport venues in the world are build in majority with government money...including ALL the ones in Houston, Texas and the US.

Houston tax payers forked out over 1,000,000,000 USD for "Reliant Stadium" , "Minute Maid" and "Toyota Center" were a little less.

Do not get me wrong, they are private venues...build with state funds...like Assen, Phill Isle...etc.

That makes sense.
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