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Old 06-24-2008, 03:54 PM   #1
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Hi everyone. Couple questions!

Alright, i'll start by introducing myself! I'm Steven, i'm 16, and i've ridden dirtbikes around our property since I was 8. I finally got a full size bike (2002 CR125) and started riding motocross about 7 months ago. I've graduated High School 2 years early, and i'm starting college in August at Alvin Community College, right now i'm trying to find what I want to major in, but nothing seems to be interesting enough for me to actually..put my life into it. My dad says as soon as I get a job, he'll help me get a (street) bike, and we'll get it financed, and he'll pay some of my payment, if i'm doing good in school. I'm hoping to get one soon so I can cut down on gas going back and forth to school. Anything is better than my truck that gets 15mpg .
I've been looking at R6's, CBR600's, GSXR600's,...well..pretty much all 600's. Haha.

Anyway, i've got a couple of questions.
One, what is everyones opinion of a 600 sportbike as a first(street) bike? Like I said, i'm pretty used to power, and not at all a beginner on motorcycles. I'm not going to be stunting or being stupid on the bike, just pretty much going back and forth to school, work, and riding for fun occasionally.

Two, does anyone have any idea of around what it would cost for insurance for a 16 year old on a 600 Sport bike? I will more than likely be paying for my own insurance once I get one. My dad said insurance when he had his motorcycle a couple years ago was $60 a year. But, he's also in his 40's. And it was a 1500cc Cruiser bike.

Anywho. It's nice to be here and from what i've been reading through on here for the last couple of days, it's a great place for information and friends!
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:57 PM   #2
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insurance will be a beast...try letting one of your parents put you on their policy instead of having your own lol

but you should be fine on a 600
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i had pretty much your experience level when i got my first street bike. It was an 87 nija 600. it was very top heavy but insurance was really cheap for that model because it was so old. I would say to go with an early 2000's model 600 would be ok for you. they don't get scary in the power range until you get above 10K RPM. keep it below that and they are pretty forgiving. insurance though for you on that would probably run you about $60-100 per moth for only liability since you are so young and on a supersport bike
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I do plan on staying on my parents policy when I do get one. Another thing I was thinking about, i'm pretty sure when my dad gets another motorcycle(soon), my mom is going to get another one too. And, if i'm not mistaken, she said she would get the same one she had before, which was a Suzuki 650 Savage. Which is a small cruiser bike. So, I might also look into learning on the street with that before hopping onto a 600 Sportbike.

But, then again, like I said, i'm not new to bikes at all, only to street.

And mattj, no thanks! I'm not looking to buy something yet..I probably won't actually buy anything until i've gotten settled in a job and college. Thanks for the offer though.
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Im 27 and pay full coverage for 06 ss bike and its around 800 a year. If you plan on getting any form of SS bike you will pay out the pooper.

Yes later model 600 would be better if you have to have a 600, but know that its nothing like riding dirt and will not translate to RW driving(ie you dont have 1/2 ton vehicles all over the place trying to run you over).

Idealy you should get a 250 cause i dont imagine you have to go all over the city at 16yo so highway riding wont be a factor. The pluses are that the bike is cheaper, resale is better, learning curve is more forgiving, insurance is cheaper!
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<--- was kind of the same boat as you. Grew up racing enduros on dirt bikes and three wheelers (yes, I said 3 wheeler... I'm twice your age and then some).... anyway, the 600s are great, but coming from a world of lots of 5 and 600hp cars... wish I had gotten an R1 instead of a 6. My two cents... and I only mention the hp because I see you're used to 2 strokes. Conversely, the 600s are kind of the same animal as your CR.... nothing down low, but tons up on top - peaky power.
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IMO you'd be more happy with a ninja 250 than a suzuki S40 (650 savage, whatever). but yeah, expect insurance to be a beast. have you looked at the suzuki SV650? haven't looked into it myself yet, but i wonder if the insurance wouldn't be cheaper just b/c it's not an SS.
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:07 PM   #13
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<--- was kind of the same boat as you. Grew up racing enduros on dirt bikes and three wheelers (yes, I said 3 wheeler... I'm twice your age and then some).... anyway, the 600s are great, but coming from a world of lots of 5 and 600hp cars... wish I had gotten an R1 instead of a 6. My two cents... and I only mention the hp because I see you're used to 2 strokes. Conversely, the 600s are kind of the same animal as your CR.... nothing down low, but tons up on top - peaky power.
See, this is kind of where I get confused...because some people think I would be fine on a 600, but some not..
I'm not going to try and act like I know I would be fine on a 600, because i'm not...but I know i'm not a stranger to bikes...but, like someone said, dirt/street are two completely different things.

But, if it's scenarios that make the difference, and it's not the power of the bike...wouldn't getting used to street be the same on a 250 or a 600?
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IMO you'd be more happy with a ninja 250 than a suzuki S40 (650 savage, whatever). but yeah, expect insurance to be a beast. have you looked at the suzuki SV650? haven't looked into it myself yet, but i wonder if the insurance wouldn't be cheaper just b/c it's not an SS.
Nope, I sure haven't...but they look sweet.

So does the bike in your sig...REALLY sweet. :O
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Search on beginner bike posts in the forum, some i've made, and some really good ones by racerx.

Count your experince in the dirt as no experince in the street to truly protect yourself. Take MSF, learn the street riding principles, and get a 250 for under $3k. OR you could get the new 250 for great poser points (kidding), it looks great!

Then move up, but really it will be cheaper. Right now, i'm clean record, 24 no wrecks, and i pay full coverage $1200 a year. Don't anyone start a debate about insurance prices please, it differs for each person, but point is you are going to be paying a lot. If you finance the bike, full coverage is required. Cost of a 250 is a lot better and i cruise at 80-85 mph on 45 no problem. I want a bigger bike, but after I've hit over 10k miles. Right now I'm at 6500. believe me when I say you are very wise for researching and considering the 250, others will tell you 600 is fine, its a big debate, but I've not regretted it one bit, especially the 50-70 mph and $15 fillups every week and a half to 2 weeks commuting everyday!
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Count your experince in the dirt as no experince in the street to truly protect yourself. Take MSF, learn the street riding principles, and get a 250 for under $3k. OR you could get the new 250 for great poser points (kidding), it looks great!

Then move up, but really it will be cheaper. Right now, i'm clean record, 24 no wrecks, and i pay full coverage $1200 a year. Don't anyone start a debate about insurance prices please, it differs for each person, but point is you are going to be paying a lot. If you finance the bike, full coverage is required. Cost of a 250 is a lot better and i cruise at 80-85 mph on 45 no problem. I want a bigger bike, but after I've hit over 10k miles. Right now I'm at 6500. believe me when I say you are very wise for researching and considering the 250, others will tell you 600 is fine, its a big debate, but I've not regretted it one bit, especially the 50-70 mph and $15 fillups every week and a half to 2 weeks commuting everyday!
Awesome! Thanks for the advice.

Are you on an 08 Ninja 250?
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Oh, another question, what if I was to get a 600/650 that isn't an actual SS bike?

Like, an SV650 as previously mentioned? Does it still have the power of a 600 Sportbike or is it a better learning bike? I actually really like the "naked bike" look.
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I loved my 650 and learned alot from it. Less power but plenty of torque down low +the exhaust note is nasty!!!

As a first street bike with your dirt background it will be a great bike. Take it to the track not the street.
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Oh, another question, what if I was to get a 600/650 that isn't an actual SS bike?

Like, an SV650 as previously mentioned? Does it still have the power of a 600 Sportbike or is it a better learning bike? I actually really like the "naked bike" look.
nope thier not
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