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Old 06-22-2008, 03:18 PM   #1
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Group forest rides...

I regret to inform you that I will no longer be posting Forest rides to the public of MH.

I have seen way, way to many (inexperienced and even a few experienced) riders go down this year at forest.
Its not that fact that people are riding outside there skill level, its that fact that alot of us know the roads and every turn. when people try to follow the "fast guys" they end up in a ditch.
The forest is one of the most dangerous rides posted on MH.
every ride it seems like someone goes down, and one day someone is going to die out there.


So lets keep these forest rides to the PMs, Invite only
I have talked to the leaders of most forest rides and they agreed to this.


the point that im making here is, if anyone wants to ride forest on a saturday, or anyday, PM me, tiatool, or cdill35 (we ride there almost every saturday) if we have rode with you and know your skill level your more than welcome to join. If we havnt rode with you we want to know your skill level and experience, we will be checking for chickenstrips lol

forest is fun riding with a big group, but it just to dangerous for the new guys.


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Old 06-22-2008, 03:48 PM   #2
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definitely understand. the main reason i havent been going lately is because its been too many people riding over their heads.


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Never ending story. It happened to others before you and it will happened to the one after you.

Street riding or road trip is fun but it didn't have to be track riding levels or speed. Sooner or later, someone in the group, experience or inexperience will go down. It's the nature of the speed and level of aggressiveness. It happens at the track and it will happen on the street.

Take it to the track, you'll will be much safer.
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^^^ Agree'd and this aint the only place newbies here about the forest. When they're out riding and they see bikes headed out there all day, what do you think they're goin to do? They're goin to head where the other bikers do. I'm sorry but I believe your boycott aint goin to have much affect on this. I could maybe be wrong though?!?!?!?
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That sucks but i do understand. Even though i have been on only one ride with you guys Im really gonna miss riding with you guys. Yall be safe
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Peeps are still welcome, I enjoy new company but if for some reason the pace is set too fast or something there will always be one of us to fall back to lead a second group. I did it on our largest group ride we had with four riders whom didn't have experience in corners. We didn't know their limits until we started riding and it didn't hurt anyone's ride. Granted someone still went down that ride following the front pack but others were safe and enjoyed the ride.
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hey mudbug pm i would love to go
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The times I rode the forest with you guys, it seemed like you couldn't have been more responsible and organized, having a formal session/review before starting, along with always having a sweeper and so forth. Only re-emphasized the fact that nobody really needs to prove anything to anyone out there.
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And if you're in the back you get more pictures from me; after all I can't speed ahead to take pictures as everyone passes...
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Well i believe all rides should be enjoyable and safe....and hooligan, if im readin it right basically you and a few others like to ride pretty fast through the forest and take some pretty hard turns (which theres nothing at all wrong with). If so I believe that you and your friends should have to ride alone by yourselves and not even have the choice to "recruit" riders. Thats where I believe the start of the incidents are happening. Your basically a pro team recruiting minor league guys and when they get hurt you blame them, when in all sad reality it is yall that is most to blame for riding with guys yall no cant hang. Not tryin to point fingers or make you look bad, but if you could just take this in and do with it what you please. Again I'm not flaming you just trying to give a little wisdom where I can, besides that let me know when the next forest ride is....I havent been down there in a while!
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Thats the problem. Peeps over doing it. I like to hang in the back a ride. If I want to haul azz I have my place for that.
Agreed. This morning was my first time riding the forest and it was an awesome ride. I just took it very easy and rode at my own pace. When people try to keep up and ride outside their limits, they go down... seen it many times at the track and on the street.
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does anyone have a turn by turn map of the forest ride? maybe should post danger area, sharp 10mph turns, gravel area, and poss cow deer crossings... i dont know. I havent rode the forest but want to. I know my skill levels arent all that great, but the guy i rode with before at crab river know I'll catch up at the gas station... Meaning Im not riding at there pace but my own.
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does anyone have a turn by turn map of the forest ride? maybe should post danger area, sharp 10mph turns, gravel area, and poss cow deer crossings... i dont know. I havent rode the forest but want to. I know my skill levels arent all that great, but the guy i rode with before at crab river know I'll catch up at the gas station... Meaning Im not riding at there pace but my own.
Everyday the road and hazzards are different. I grew up right by that road and went to highschool right past it, basically I drove it my whole life. Thats where people get hurt is they think they remember the road and haul a$$ and then one weekend some hillbilly drops a small amount of gravel on a turn, or a construction crew tears a shoulder up a little too much on Friday afternoon. Its this that makes alot of riders go down. I believe if your goin to the Forest dont even try to stay in formation. Just stop at the gas station right before it and send people every couple of minutes. That will cause people not to "race" and actually ride they're own pace and then have a "sweeper" ride last. Its when you have a tight formation that people tend to try and keep up. Just go out there and have fun. If your a "racer" or believe you "know" the road then go at another time then everybody else. Dont even "recruit" or put people in harms way by tryin to do a "recruited" group ride. Just go by your self or with one other rider if necassary
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Posting routes never recommended. These forums can be referenced with a google search to the general public. That's the same reason we dont post speeds. We do discuss problem areas on every ride, where we will be riding the speed limit and where people can open up as well as general road conditions. We do have a great informative meeting everyone is required to listen to before the ride. See pics of last forest ride.

Yes, we had someone that didn't tell us he had bought his bike yesterday. Went down on second corner on a backroad. Sweeper stayed with him, I went back for them when realized they weren't with us.

These rides are very well organised and informative. The group of people whom ride and lead care about safety, gear and bike conditions. All that said it is still an individual ride for each bike and things happen.
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