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Old 06-19-2008, 01:41 PM   #1
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Twist of the Wrist I and II, plus video

Just read Twist of the Wrist I and II...going to watch the DVD tonight.

The books are amazing, I have not tried the advice at the track yet but I have about 6 pages of hand written notes. Everything I ahve been doing right and wrong seem to be coming together and some of the advice I have received over the years contradicts what is in the book.

Anyone else read this?
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I’ve read TOTW 2…….

Great book. It seriously changed the way I thought about riding.

It put a lot of the things I was doing and what I thought I knew about riding, into perspective. The “Survival Reactions” chapter was the one I took the most away from as a street rider. I couldn’t relate much to the other sections that had more to do with track riding……. But now after 5 trackdays under my belt, maybe the later sections will make more sense. I plan on giving it another read. It’s a good way to keep the mind sharp on riding during the winter as well.

After reading that thing, it changed the way I rode and thought about riding. Probably saved my life honestly. I know the “Survival Reactions” chapter contributed to my ability to still walk on my own. Running stupid speeds on the twisty country roads of North Carolina with rows of trees and mountain cliffs on both flanks, there isn’t any room for those survival reactions……….

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Old 06-19-2008, 02:25 PM   #3
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I'd really like to pick them up. I may hit up the bookstore on the way home.
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They are a bit dry but not bad for a technical manual. I really need to get a camera and record my laps.
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I have Twist of the Wrist II. I've heard TW I is obsolete after II, but I don't know that. Also I bought Soft Science of Roadracing Motorcycles by Keith Code. I started reading that, and it is way in depth for the track. I think I will focus on some smaller stuff before I continue to read that one.
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Probably the best "upgrade" I have done to my bike... I read both numerous times and can absolutely notice an improvement. I like to glance over them every once in a while to understand what I have improved on and what I continue to do wrong. I haven't done any tracks days yet(hopefully this season or next), but feel I could really make some major improvements and push my limits way beyond what I do on the street. I would reccomend the books to any rider including people that have been to the track. Sh*t these books would probably help pros stay sharp.The books provide an excellent description of how motorcycles are designed to work and how to get the most out of your bike.

I'm also interested to see what other books/dvd's people have used to improve their riding. Training aids such as these books combined with seat time will do wonders.
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I have Twist of the Wrist II. I've heard TW I is obsolete after II, but I don't know that. Also I bought Soft Science of Roadracing Motorcycles by Keith Code. I started reading that, and it is way in depth for the track. I think I will focus on some smaller stuff before I continue to read that one.
I read TW I then took what I got from that and rode for a few months before getting into TW II. TW II seems a bit more in depth and track oriented while TW I explains the absolute basics in a manner that my 12 year old nephew would understand.
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who wrote these books?
Keith Code. He has a superbike school in California.
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They are a bit dry but not bad for a technical manual. I really need to get a camera and record my laps.
Most educational material I have read is dry. Thats a fact of life people will have to get over!
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I did say it was "not bad for a technical manual", I have written some fun educational/technical manuals. He did a good job.
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Spaz... I would recommend when you get on the track, only work on one or two things at a time. Spend the first half of the day on those, and then after lunch start working on some other stuff.

It's kinda like adding a steering damper, mounting slicks, wearing new leathers, having your front suspension worked over, and a new triple click rear shock, all at once you'll never see an improvement... but you add one at a time and adjust... and you'll see improvements all day long.
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Those books are kinda lame.
Like Scientology.

Kenny Roberts book Techniques of Motorcycle Roadracing is really the only one w/ good advice.

TOTW is fluff.

Better than nothing, but still fluff. IMHO
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i never read any of the TOTW books ... guess thats why im so slow !
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:39 AM   #14
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Spaz... I would recommend when you get on the track, only work on one or two things at a time. Spend the first half of the day on those, and then after lunch start working on some other stuff.

It's kinda like adding a steering damper, mounting slicks, wearing new leathers, having your front suspension worked over, and a new triple click rear shock, all at once you'll never see an improvement... but you add one at a time and adjust... and you'll see improvements all day long.
Some other stuff...you are brilliant...I will try that. Look I have been doing track days for 4 years now and racing for two. The books bring many things together...much better then advice from most Track Day "Instructors".
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Some other stuff...you are brilliant...I will try that. Look I have been doing track days for 4 years now and racing for two. The books bring many things together...much better then advice from most Track Day "Instructors".
Dang, I think Tim was just trying to help, that was pretty harsh
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It's kinda like adding a steering damper, mounting slicks, wearing new leathers, having your front suspension worked over, and a new triple click rear shock, all at once.
Throw all that onto a bike you've never ridden and you've just described my first track day! It was to say the least, interesting.
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That might be true, sorry bout that Tim. I am just a little sick of people giving me racing advice...and having NO idea what they are talking about. Tim is not this case.
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Some other stuff...you are brilliant...I will try that. Look I have been doing track days for 4 years now and racing for two. The books bring many things together...much better then advice from most Track Day "Instructors".
Wow.....talking about laying down the hammer. That was almost as much of an azzhol remark that Jody usually puts out...........almost.

If you ask me bro, if you've been trackdayin it and racing for over 4 years, who gives a about those books. You've got enough seat time to write your own.......apparently.:/:

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You've got enough seat time to write your own.......apparently.:/:

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How did you come up with that conclusion, based on the above thread. I did not state that I could instruct or write that book. Just saying...as you also did that these books are useful...while some track day "instructors" are not.
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No desrespect bro.......just saying there is probably little TOTW could offer next to 4 years of racing experience. That's all......

Plus, you may want to be careful when making a comment on the abilities or in-abilities of trackday instructors........we have some on here that are pretty sensitive guys.

But seriously, no disrespect......think about it though, I'm sure after 4 years of racing, you could probably write something??? You think?

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