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Old 06-18-2008, 10:43 PM   #21
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i was checking out hardcharger racing are they in n.c.
Joe, the owner of HCR, is in San Diego.
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What I did on my bike is follow manufacturers recomendation for the first tankfull. So I didn't go over 4-5K and didn't hover around the same speed a lot. Next tank full I took it 1500-2K more rpms up, still varying the speed. 3rd tankfull I went another 2K higher up and another on the next tankfull. I know some say you can run em hard which is good, but I think that it's more important for the first few tankfulls not to ride at the same speed all the time. I'm surprised no one posted the motoman break in secrets which has got to be older than the internet!
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Royal Purple sucks, I hear.

Don't maintain a steady RPM for any extended period, don't load the engine up heavily, don't do any heavy clutch dumps. Other than that, you're cool. Ride it like you stole it.
i was sponsored by them back in 1993-94 when they first started makin a push into the motorcycle seen. we dyno'd my race bike with it -vs- motul, HP4, mobil 1 & castrol. it made 3 horsepower more on the dyno than those 4. i pulled the holeshot on every race and won 5 novice championships that year. so i have nothin but good thangs to say about royal purple.

my advice to you is... dont listen to all the BS. try it for urself and then form ur own opinion.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:32 AM   #24
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Learn it, live it, love it. I do, and my bike uses less oil and has more power than bikes that were babied like the book recommends.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm




by the way: oil shouldn't ever touch the valve seats so I don't see how synthetic oil could prevent valves from seating properly. Please people, if you have no idea what you're talking about, don't give advice.
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CHANGE YOUR OIL EARLY!!!! IMHO...




I'm no expert, but 2 things I've seen...

OIL CHANGES... I changed the oil on my last two bikes at 25 miles, and the oil was already way "sparkly" ('lil pieces of metal from the parts breaking-in)! The magnetic oil drain plug was packed with bits of metal, too. GET THAT CHIT OUTTA YOUR ENGINE! And no, it was not because I burned up the clutch or can't ride...

I then changed the oil after every track day or after a few hundred street miles, and the oil became less and less "sparkly" each time. The ZX10 had 1500 miles on it before the oil just got dark with use, and had no "sparkles" (thats when I switched to full synthetic).

BREAK-IN... Me and my po-po friend both got identical po-po rides a few years ago. He broke his in hard, I broke mine in easy. After 10K miles, we ran 'em down 288... guess who won? He did. His car pulled away from mine at about 2mph. His car topped-out at 3mph more than mine. Thats a huge difference for otherwise identical cars!

FWIW...
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Me and my po-po friend
Not this po-po friend. And before anyone asks, I'm not a LEO. I just used to have a police package 5.0 mustang.
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Not this po-po friend. And before anyone asks, I'm not a LEO. I just used to have a police package 5.0 mustang.
Nope, not you...
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You may want to read this http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Nope, not you...
Just didn't want to confuse people.
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I did use it.
I can tell you I was very satisfied with my change to Castrol R4 Superbike oil. Maybe the smoothest oil I've tried.
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i was sponsored by them back in 1993-94 when they first started makin a push into the motorcycle seen. we dyno'd my race bike with it -vs- motul, HP4, mobil 1 & castrol. it made 3 horsepower more on the dyno than those 4. i pulled the holeshot on every race and won 5 novice championships that year. so i have nothin but good thangs to say about royal purple.

my advice to you is... dont listen to all the BS. try it for urself and then form ur own opinion
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I have, and did. Thanks for your recommendation.
I will remain that frequency of maintenance will beat out all the "this is better than that" in the world. Regardless of manufactor, an oil change is cheaper than an engine rebuild.
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:39 AM   #31
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Nice link. Another good one HERE Very concise, too.
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i've had my r6 for 2-3 weeks and i ran it hard the first 600. im still heavy handed. then went with motul v300 full synt at first oil change and no issues. shift smooth as butter and runs quieter.

once my rp oil comes in. i'll be changing the oil at 2K and run it even harder.

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my advice to you is... dont listen to all the BS. try it for urself and then form ur own opinion.
listen to the man. try them all like i did. in the end, im still an rp fan. cost is about the same as Mobile 1 if you order it online (ebay, jegs) i now run it on everything i have. try it for yourself.
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Mototune usa is a great site!

One thing to keep in mind, prolly not for the 250 but for other bikes. I HEARD that the really cool data acquisition stuff on the Ducati 848 is also a tattle tale. The dealer can see if you violated the break in instructions and that may give you warranty issues. Not a problem yet on most bikes but in the future it may be.
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http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Do_I_re...k-in_period%3F

All things ninja are in that FAQ site. Pretty amazing. Read it before you ask anyone without a ninja for advice since at least you'll have Ninja 250 specialists helping out...
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All things ninja are in that FAQ site. Pretty amazing. Read it before you ask anyone without a ninja for advice since at least you'll have Ninja 250 specialists helping out...

Is that because the ninja 250 motor is so amazingly different than any other internal combustion engine on the planet that it requires an expert specific to it? Did you even read the FAQ? It actually points back to the mototune link posted earlier in this thread.
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nope, just different in the extent that if you follow strict breakin protocol you'll be going less than 40mph in 6th gear! lol

perhaps not best wording, i was referring to probably better to read that which is compiled by avid ninja 250 riders who have owned several and know their stuff. It will avoid wasting time here trying to get specifics when its already been answered!

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