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Old 06-17-2008, 05:09 PM   #1
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Was this bike never offered in the states? I used to see them all the time oversea's and I never hear anyone mention it as a good starter bike nor have I seen one over here?

Just random thoughts with all the noob bike threads, There are tons of great smaller bikes that you don't see in the states that would make great beginners
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Old 06-17-2008, 05:10 PM   #2
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I had put up a thread about them a few yrs ago. They are still sold used over on the Phillipines and you can order them shipped to USA.. Good luck registering them...Difficult from what I hear..
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Was this bike never offered in the states? I used to see them all the time oversea's and I never hear anyone mention it as a good starter bike nor have I seen one over here?

Just random thoughts with all the noob bike threads, There are tons of great smaller bikes that you don't see in the states that would make great beginners
That's because Americans have egos the size of some of these foreign countries you speak of.

The 400 Honda would be sweet, though.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:45 PM   #5
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Ya. Jeffro is correct. we prefer big bikes and diesel trucks here in the states. no one would but a cbr400 here in the states.
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Well, there was the CB-1, and it was a flop. Like "bignmz04" said, it's an ego thing- I agree. The FZR400 was a lot more successful though, especially on the race track.


I've ridden a VFR400 (or NC30 I think they called it), the CB-1, and an FZR400, and they were great fun to ride!
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Well, there was the CB-1, and it was a flop. Like "bignmz04" said, it's an ego thing- I agree. The FZR400 was a lot more successful though, especially on the race track.


I've ridden a VFR400 (or NC30 I think they called it), the CB-1, and an FZR400, and they were great fun to ride!
forgive my ignorance but a vfr400 is a baby version of the rc30 correct? v4 design?
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If you look long and hard you can find them here...
They were sold in Canada and a number trickled across the border.

Yes a V4
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I would love to have one to take that to the track.
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forgive my ignorance but a vfr400 is a baby version of the rc30 correct? v4 design?
Yeah, the NC30 is the "baby" RC30, or VFR400 as it was marketed in some places too.

As mentioned, you can find it still, I run across 'em from time to time. A friend of mine has 2 of them- one is in track trim, and he swears by it.

The FZR400 was pretty dern popular, and they are easy to find.

The CB-1 was a bike I just loved when it came out, I just didn't have the cabbage for it. I test rode one at SW Honda/ Suzuki when they had them and the Hawk GT new. You could test ride either one of those bikes, or both. Sales were pretty dismal for both of them. The Hawk turned out better and sales were better for it- it handled like a dream with the elf suspension. Racers loved that bike in the clubs.

I took the CB-1 and was immediately impressed. It was light, nimble, and powerful! It's engine was a de-stroked and smaller bore but the same engine as the Hurricane 600. The front wheel came up on demand, in just about any gear too. Great fun, and pretty as well.

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I had a street legal VFR400 and had a lot of fun on it. You can find them now and then. I know where one street legal VFR400 is nearby and a track RVF400 owned by the same person. His RVF is fast as all get out for a little 400. They look different, but the only real difference is the carbs I believe. The NC30 (VFR400) is a baby RC30 and the NC35 (RVF400) is a baby RC45. The cool thing about them is they were built with the race bikes and not in a standard production line if I remember correctly.

When I was in college, I met a guy that had a CBR400 gullwing that was street legal. Wish I knew were to find one now.

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I know where one street legal VFR400 is nearby and a track RVF400 owned by the same person.
We're both talking about the same guy- Whiting!

I miss that cat, he needs to come back to the track... where it's safe!
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I figured. He will be back soon. He is finishing up some stuff and should be free after the end of June. I am fairly certain riding motorcycles at the track and elsewhere is all over his plans after July.

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Also, it's my understanding that many foreign countries have tiered licensing. So you have to start on smaller bikes. That's why they are more choices and cooler offereings in the smaller displacement bikes over there...
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I've seen some pretty kitted up VFR400s, and they make out to be sweet little machines. I would love to do one up for the gf, and let that be her track hoe (of course I could play a little from time to time).
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The fact that with the much needed updating on the ninja 250 has put those bikes in waiting list status should spark the rest of crowd to follow suit.

I also believe that because there is so much highway traffic it leads to larger bikes as well from most view points, take for example Bangkok, Thailand. The place is over run with 125-250 bikes but most of the bike traffic sticks to the surface roads you don't see them on the freeways for the most part.

Our impatience as a society has brought motorcycle traffic to the free ways to save a few minutes each way instead of taking the feeders,surface roads ect. And I believe thats another reason for the bike sizes here.

These are just some observations I have made over the years riding here in the states and overseas.
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Also with the popularity increasing and more women riders I think more options like that would be good. I know of some girls that would like to have a bigger bike than a 250 but can't put their feet flat on the ground on a 600, hence the cbr400 would be perfect for them.
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My libertarian friends spit up their milk everytime I say this ... but I think the US needs to adopt a tiered system for motorcycles. Too many noob teens and 20 somethings getting killed and hurt because their egos wont let them make the right choice in picking a starter bike.
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