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Old 06-17-2008, 02:33 PM   #161
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If your 17 y/o brother wanted to get a bike and you had to choose for him, what would you get? 250 or 600?
So you choose him one based on his age? Not his mentality or maturity level?
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the reality is that they usually go hand in hand, yes some don't, but most do.


but i think it was a retorical ?

so can you answer whats so good mechanically/structurally about a 600 that makes it a good starter bike?
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I want a pink helmet and bike so I can be an expert on everything too!! I mean that is all there is too it right? Oh maybe a few laps around the track.. Im continually amazed at how "some" track riders want to transfer there expertise (using the term loosely) from track to street.

I will take the pink helmet/ bike as a reference to me? Did someone get there panties in a bunch over something i said?? I never said I am an expert and this is how its done..Quite opposite might I add I said I still dont ride my bike which is a dinasour to its full potential. You can try to twist what i said whichever way you want i could give a rats less. Simply said riding on the street is not the full potential of the bike and she should try a few track days to get the full potential of the bike..

Im sorry but I'm much more inclined to take advice from an individual who can ride the out of a bike on an imperfect public road or highway rather than someone who has reached legendary status among there own click at the track.

Who has legendary status??? I know you are not talking about me.... And news flash again if you read all of my statements you would see I used to ride the streets and just started riding the track 2 years ago and have only done 7 track days as you see in my post below.... I gave it up about the time several others riders did when our best friend passed away in an accident.


But as we have all seen displayed here it must be to just sit and bite your tongue when you have so much positive information to offer the group or individual that originally posted a question.

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well, if the little showed self control and was a responsible lad, 600 of course. bottom line is bikes aren't for everyone. doesn't matter if its a NSR50 or a zx10. would you put your grandmother on a 250?
so if your bro is a typ. 17, what would your suggestion be? lets add NO bike experience
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Its been that way for many many years....
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So you choose him one based on his age? Not his mentality or maturity level?


I think he was more of reffering to brother/ family member... Someone just starting out on a bike that you care about which would you prefer them to start on...
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well, if the little showed self control and was a responsible lad, 600 of course. bottom line is bikes aren't for everyone. doesn't matter if its a NSR50 or a zx10. would you put your grandmother on a 250?
Funny you would say that. My grandmother rode a 750cc Ural up until a few years ago due to health problems! And yes, in Russia where the weather is not so permitting.
 
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well, if the little showed self control and was a responsible lad, 600 of course. bottom line is bikes aren't for everyone. doesn't matter if its a NSR50 or a zx10. would you put your grandmother on a 250?
my grandma couldnt get her leg high enough to get on the bike.
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and it has about as much hp as a ninja 250, fact! lol

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But yes, I was stating someone you really care about. Little to do with age.

I told my best friend that unless he takes the MSF (he did) and gets something other than an SS bike as his first bike (he's working on a Buell Blast) that I would NOT ride with him.
 
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the reality is that they usually go hand in hand, yes some don't, but most do.


but i think it was a retorical ?

so can you answer whats so good mechanically/structurally about a 600 that makes it a good starter bike?
personally i dont think any average rider is going to push any of the bikes being discussed here to its full potential. if so, they are an exception. so at the end of the day, pick something you are comfortable on, that you can afford, pick you out a pretty pink helmet go have fun.. the only way to know if your cut out for it or not is trial by fire! only the strong shall survive... good luck
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and you go look up the number of 250 sales vs. the number of 600cc bike sales and get back to me.
The 250 is Kawasaki's number one selling bike in the US ... take that as you want.
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like i said before. self control is all it comes down to. as long as your not a complete fcking there is no reason to start on a 250 as opposed to a 600. buying a larger cc bike gives you more room to grow.

Actually, a larger displacement bike will slow the learning process. Harder to learn the discipline of * not * giving too much throttle.
Remember we are talking about beginners not some one with a year or two experience.

Its too easy to get to the edge or past your safety envelope on a 600 vs. a 250.
That is the main argument here.

Not too many new riders that I have seen looked confident in there ability to *safely* handle a 600.. They are out there but few and far between.

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Excerpt from an article on the 2008 unveiling...


""Yes, that is not a typo. In fact, the little Ninja isn't just the best-selling sportbike for Kawasaki - it is the Japanese firm's best-selling bike period. Experiencing steady double-digit sales growth year after year, the reliable little Ninja has achieved cult status as the beginner sportbike here in the US of A. And as we discovered at the recent San Diego press launch, the redesigned 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R isn't just the "little Ninja that could," it's the "little Ninja that does things way better than it should."

The story of the Ninja 250's unexpected success began when it entered the American market in 1986 - with the design unaltered since the 1988 model year. Now, while not a bad year per se, 1988 saw Phil Collins' Groovy Kind of Love top the music charts. The point being tastes can alter over a two-decade span. On that note, one of the Ninja 250's most glaring weaknesses was its dated styling.""
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