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Old 06-17-2008, 02:17 PM   #141
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and you go look up the number of 250 sales vs. the number of 600cc bike sales and get back to me.
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and you go look up the number of 250 sales vs. the number of 600cc bike sales and get back to me.
Actually you would be surprised to learn, that the little ninja that could (250), outsells Kawasaki's ENTIRE line...
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one of my students ran his R1 (first bike) into a building the first time he touched the throttle, my guess is that he didn't want to go that fast or that far or thru a building, but he did. but it's only a guess.
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and you go look up the number of 250 sales vs. the number of 600cc bike sales and get back to me.
Sure then you get off your and compare the # of accidents both are involved in, for the 250 & 600+ displacements.

While we're looking at those 'sales' again.. why are 250's so hard to find 'new' and yet we see all the others available on the floor?
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I want a pink helmet and bike so I can be an expert on everything too!! I mean that is all there is too it right? Oh maybe a few laps around the track.. I’m continually amazed at how "some" track riders want to transfer there expertise (using the term loosely) from track to street. I’m sorry but I'm much more inclined to take advice from an individual who can ride the out of a bike on an imperfect public road or highway rather than someone who has reached legendary status among there own click at the track. But as we have all seen displayed here it must be to just sit and bite your tongue when you have so much positive information to offer the group or individual that originally posted a question.
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like i said before. self control is all it comes down to. as long as your not a complete fcking there is no reason to start on a 250 as opposed to a 600. buying a larger cc bike gives you more room to grow.
So at a certain point a rider on a 250 will hit a "ceiling" for growth and not become a better rider until he gets a bigger bike?
 
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people can't ouride the abilities of a 250, what makes you think they need a 600.

again why is a 600 a good beginner bike?
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So at a certain point a rider on a 250 will hit a "ceiling" for growth and not become a better rider until he gets a bigger bike?
A rider is never done with technique! You can't outgrow a 250 in terms of technique, but in power yes. Its not wrong to want more power; however to equate larger bike with rider skill is wrong.

Read the Pashnit forum review by a veteran rider on the new Ninja 250 2008, google it or ask for help if can't find it. He loved it and its amazingly flickable per how light it is, so he was in love with it!

I look forward to a bigger bike, but with that comes more upgrading of my personal control, restraint, better technique (since more power equats to highlighting mistakes more), and more comfort for longer distance traveling.

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Go find the analogy on OLD, FAST street riders...
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let me ask you this. how many people have offered to sell their 250s to the guy who posted the thread and how many have offered to sell their 600s???

and how many of them are ready to move up? after putting some miles on their 250's? thats what it is a training tool.
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like i said before. self control is all it comes down to. as long as your not a complete fcking there is no reason to start on a 250 as opposed to a 600. buying a larger cc bike gives you more room to grow.
...and research how many people felt they had the self-control to handle a 600+ sb, and how many acutally didn't.

It's akin to telling a fresh nub, 'ride at your own pace' or 'ride within your limits'. Most of them have no REAL clue what the heck those are.
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i asked why a 600 WAY back, still no answer why. you wanna try?
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A rider is never done with technique! You can't outgrow a 250 in terms of technique, but in power yes. Its not wrong to want more power; however to equate larger bike with rider skill is wrong.

Read the Pashnit forum review by a veteran rider on the new Ninja 250 2008, google it or ask for help if can't find it. He loved it and its amazingly flickable per how light it is, so he was in love with it!

I look forward to a bigger bike, but with that comes more upgrading of my personal control, restraint, better technique (since more power equats to highlighting mistakes more), and more comfort for longer distance traveling.

I was being sarcastic. I don't think I'll be selling my 250 when Im ready to get something more comfy.
 
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If your 17 y/o brother wanted to get a bike and you had to choose for him, what would you get? 250 or 600?
 
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