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Old 06-17-2008, 01:22 PM   #101
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please explain this less breaking ability?
Single 260mm 4pot vs. Dual 310-320mm 4-6pots... self explanatory, as in Less apt to chunk your over the bars when the newbie panics and grabs too much brake.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:22 PM   #102
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I just got my new 250r. I love it!!! It's great for beginners and short ladies like me. Fixing to lower it about 1 in the front & back. It's totally up to you, whatever makes you feel comfortable. Good luck and I would love to see what you get.
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As with anything the key is learning curve, respecting the bike, and riding within your limits. All of this can easily be achieved with a 600 or a 250.

i do agree with this. its just an opinion he asked for he can read threw and decide which he feels more confident in.


Factor in aesthetics, ego, and machismo. You can shrug it off all you like, but being happy with your purchase should be a factor in deciding what you are going to fork over a chunk of cash for. Why shouldn't he be satisfied with his purchase. Are we going to deny that pulling up to pp1 on 2fiddy can sometimes get some strange looks from others. (Keep in mind pp1 is mostly a kickstand party)

Well then on this statement why is he asking a 250 or a 600 to LEARN to ride on....go buy a busa and just pose...

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Are we going to deny that pulling up to pp1 on 2fiddy can sometimes get some strange looks from others. (Keep in mind pp1 is mostly a kickstand party)
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I know that is an over-exagerated comment but would you say it takes longer for the 250 to reach the speed limit on the highway than an average sedan or truck?
No. Not at all. I normally book it. I'm a little heavy on the 250 throttle compared to some, but if you are just pushing it, by the time you get up the ramp you'll be supra legal speeds if you aren't watching it. The bike can go freakin 100 mph. maximum speed in houston typically si around 70 mph, so you have plenty of play. As a 6-3 tall individual, i can't wait for clip ons, more fairing etc, to smooth it out, but even with me on the bike I leave most cars in the dust.

The difference is you are still able to smoke MOST cars that aren't trying to gun you down, or drag race, the comparison of power is when it comes to another 600cc sport bike, then the 250 is piddly slow. For a beginner that extra power than launches you through the tight spot in traffic can be the power that launches you in the SUV. You learn to ride differently than you drive, so slowing you down from instant jet behavior isn't bad!
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I just got my new 250r. I love it!!! It's great for beginners and short ladies like me. Fixing to lower it about 1 in the front & back. It's totally up to you, whatever makes you feel comfortable. Good luck and I would love to see what you get.
The 08's Ninja 250's are some good looking bikes.

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Single 260mm 4pot vs. Dual 310-320mm 4-6pots... self explanatory, as in Less apt to chunk your over the bars when the newbie panics and grabs too much brake.
oh ok wasnt aware of that.
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No. Not at all. I normally book it. I'm a little heavy on the 250 throttle compared to some, but if you are just pushing it, by the time you get up the ramp you'll be supra legal speeds if you aren't watching it. The bike can go freakin 100 mph. maximum speed in houston typically si around 70 mph, so you have plenty of play. As a 6-3 tall individual, i can't wait for clip ons, more fairing etc, to smooth it out, but even with me on the bike I leave most cars in the dust.

The difference is you are still able to smoke MOST cars that aren't trying to gun you down, or drag race, the comparison of power is when it comes to another 600cc sport bike, then the 250 is piddly slow. For a beginner that extra power than launches you through the tight spot in traffic can be the power that launches you in the SUV. You learn to ride differently than you drive, so slowing you down from instant jet behavior isn't bad!
Thank you for verifing that!
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As you can see, this has been a well-debated topic. Not just today, for years. (Refer to RacerX's sticky from '05.) While I can't tell you what's best for you, I can share my personal experience. I started on a Gixxer 750 back in '06 with my only experience being the MSF class. It scaried the mess out of me that 1st week. I must say that the fact I didn't hurt myself was by the grace of . The bike that you ride during the majority any MSF class and my bike were like night and day. Huge difference in power.

While I have never personally road a 250 or 600, I would say go for the 250. Since everyone says that it'll retain a good resell value, you won't lose a thing. Plus, you'll get more accustomed to riding a bike AND navigating traffic. And riding the 250 will give you time to decide on exactly what type of bike you want next. That is, assuming that you upgrade at a later date.
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That can be said for any bike...
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Ya’ll crazy. Anything greater than 250cc is instant and painful death unless the throttle is gingerly twisted as gently as a soft breeze blowing up your shorts. , I once sneezed with my hand on the throttle on a liter biker and the thing looped a 360; and the bike wasn’t even on!!! The only true beginner bike is a 50cc Honda metropolitan scooter. Until you can ride it to it’s full potential by dragging your body with the hairs on your nuts grazing the ground, there is absolutely no need to upgrade to anything else..
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Ya’ll crazy. Anything greater than 250cc is instant and painful death unless the throttle is gingerly twisted as gently as a soft breeze blowing up your shorts. , I once sneezed with my hand on the throttle on a liter biker and the thing looped a 360; and the bike wasn’t even on!!! The only true beginner bike is a 50cc Honda metropolitan scooter. Until you can ride it to it’s full potential by dragging your body with the hairs on your nuts grazing the ground, there is absolutely no need to upgrade to anything else..

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Ya’ll crazy. Anything greater than 250cc is instant and painful death unless the throttle is gingerly twisted as gently as a soft breeze blowing up your shorts. , I once sneezed with my hand on the throttle on a liter biker and the thing looped a 360; and the bike wasn’t even on!!! The only true beginner bike is a 50cc Honda metropolitan scooter. Until you can ride it to it’s full potential by dragging your body with the hairs on your nuts grazing the ground, there is absolutely no need to upgrade to anything else..




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Then again, you can just go for it like I did...
No regrets on my part, but I did want you to understand the risk.
And I agree, for the most part, with what TiaTool was stating in post #102
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tell that to my 300+lb instructor friend, who bought 1 last yr after 40yrs of riding and a valkyeria and 1200 bandit in the garage or another inst. friend who teaches MSF and track instructs for LSTD. they'll tell ya differently.

they're still faster then 95% of the cars on the road.
i don't think anyone should tell your buddy what kind of bike to get but maybe someone should tell him to go on a diet... seriously, 300+ pounds is a heart attack waiting to happen...
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The uses for a 600 are far greater than a 250. I know you guys say a 250 can keep up in the twisties, and this may be true, right up untill a straight away.
they both get you A to B , and whatever one can both can do, 1 just faster, but the 250 will still get to 110, not fast enough, remember these are new riders

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learning curve is right, does a bike w/ a hair throttle, hair trigger brakes super steep steering angle (makes bike handle great at 100+, but wants to fall over at 20)

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Waerloga those guys are a$$holes. I was just pointing that out in case this guy has thinner skin than you and would not be able to shrug something like that off. I wouldn't want him to stop riding becuase of some aholes at a starbucks TALKING about riding. Sheesh I hate that .

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