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Old 06-17-2008, 05:09 PM   #281
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Well if you really "love" them.. lol! Like what does love have to do with it?? are you going to set someone up on something they arenít ready for if you donít love them?? Thatís pretty ignorant of you isnít it?

Loved or not, itís about aptitude and attitude... they either have it or they dont.
wow ... I never said anything about love. I said someone you care about and personally when my son desides to start riding on the street or track if he desides he can get a 250 and learn on that... even though he already has the basics down of riding a bike and will be getting a dirtbike next year..

aptitude and additude have some to do with it, but you are telling me you just jumped on a bike and knew everything you needed to know?? You LEARN things as you go.. I am sure the guys that have been riding for 20+ years will tell you they still learn things to this day.
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Old 06-17-2008, 05:11 PM   #282
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NO NO, not in houston, it was an HD class, 2x actually

i also read where an inst died getting mowed down by a student.

no i'm not w/ awesome.
Wow. I enjoyed Awesome, but I wish that someone like you had been there. When the instructors were inevitably asked about which bike to start with by IMPRESSIONABLE students, nothing solid was said, pretty much get what you want! I had a student next to me getting an R1 for his first ever bike. I saw him a couple weeks later in cycle gear looking at gear since he was thinking about getting some finally. Wow.

I personally think it wouldn't HURT to have a tiered license structure like they have in certain countries, but I don't think it will fly EVER in American since we hate restrictions. Only thing that could change that is something happening to a major law maker and him trying to pass it since "his kid would have been saved with this law" etc. More likely they'll try restricting or banning bikes like they do in some places rather than a tierd structure since the banning is reactionary, then tiered license tends to be more of an educated responsible approach to the problem.

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This thread blew up quick today... where was I?

Mentioned earlier above, you will never stop learning and it amazes me how many ride just to ride and dont see the things going on around them before it happens. That's why they are always correcting and I make this look so good. Time on the road, corners, track if you wish is where the experience is gained. A lower cc bike will correct for your errors in a panic situation since it is more forgiving.

Its not like a car where you may be able to blame something else going on in the back seat... the curve didn't 'sneak up on you' the rabbit didn't go 'komakoze' on you... On a bike you messed up, you didn't react or you didn't avoid... People will decide what they want to start on, in all honesty to lower the cc the better off you are. Is that the most cost efficient? Probably not... but drop that brand new R1 and see how pricey it is to repair it... That's the difference in price from stepping up through cc's every year or couple.

No matter your choices for a first bike, find a small group to ride with that allows you to learn at a confident, non-abrassive pace not a group that wants to show off and push you. If they are really concerned about you they will modify their ride to help you improve. You will learn more from them by their reactions, gestures etc then you ever would on your own putting around.
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the stabilizer on my 07 girl's gixxer sucks. even the crappy one on her honda is better.

I will give you reasons why a 250 is better

insurance, fuel, cost, weight, bad throttle response (good thing for a beginner) and the main reason HAS A BETTER RESALE VALUE THAN ANY 600
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so it has a stabilizer so its better weak reason
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so it has a stabilizer so its better weak reason
correct. factory stabilizers (other than the cbr1000rr's) suck.
Even the Ohlins on the zx10r sucks compared to the ohlins that you can buy as an aftermarket part.
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bottom line.
you have to start on a 250 cause if you start on a 600 you will wreck and die. and if you don't wreck RacerX and Ulric are gonna ArmorAll your tires up so you do just to prove a point.

i never took any gay MSF course and i started on a 750 gixxer. i must be a fcking superhero or something cause the closest i have ever come to wrecking is i slipped in some oil in a parking spot as i was putting my kickstand down. would have never happened though had i been on a 2fiddy.
you might wanna knock on some wood right about now.
its so funny you say this. my girl's learner bike was her dads rc1. what does she have now? 2 600 ss bikes.
so do you have your m endorsement?

I never too msf either (I have my m though) but I am about to take it because it teaches old riders a lot of things.
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so by his logic a 600 ss is better begginer bike than a 250 because it has a stabilizer
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oh my dear lord... big whoopie

as far as fuel and insurance, well if your that hard up for money i'm sorry cause there isn't too much difference between the two.
throttle response: here we go right back to that self control thing.

resale, well. being that you don't have to invest too much to own one of those fine pieces of machinery you can't expect too much of a loss come resale time. the depreciation ratio is probably near the same between them.
you must not know squat because 20 lbs is a lot on a bike.
there is a whole of difference between the two bikes when it comes to insurance and all of the other monetary stuff. gas mileage alone is at a 20mpg difference. no one is hard up on money here but people do like saving money. remember rich people did not get rich by throwing money away genius.

are you looking at self control as the variable or the control part of the equation?

the resale value and dep ratio of a 250 is tons better than a 600. get of the crack. get some real info bub.

so lets go within your logic.

you are not hard up on cash
you have the throttle control of ben spies
you find the suzuki's with the magical 250 type, honda type resale values.
and you are big swole to where 20 lbs on a bike does not matter.

why the did you not start off on a busa chuck norris?
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you have to start on a 250 cause if you start on a 600 you will wreck and die. and if you don't wreck RacerX and Ulric are gonna ArmorAll your tires up so you do just to prove a point.

i never took any gay MSF course and i started on a 750 gixxer. i must be a fcking superhero or something cause the closest i have ever come to wrecking is i slipped in some oil in a parking spot as i was putting my kickstand down. would have never happened though had i been on a 2fiddy.
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no endorsements. got tired of running from leos so my bike is a straight tracker now. never taken MSF but i have several dead friends who did. good luck with it but i will stick to my bad habits.

props to your girl though. i was just talking to my girl today about getting her on the track.
and thats where you lose all credibility.
you have no M and you want to talk about riding on the streets?
and you must be a of a tracker if you love your stock stabilizer.
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