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Old 10-29-2005, 03:02 PM   #61
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nahhhh... i'm just thinking better skills at controlling your bike at highway speeds... less likely to panic in dealing with a close cager... you know - being calm during evasive maneuvers kinda skills...

i dunno... i feel soooo much more relaxed when i commute these days... even my reactions seem more like reflexes and they're smoother - i find that i don't have to think about things so much... anyway (personally) i gotta give some of the credit for that to what i've learned from porter, ronnie, alan tan, and ALL the lstd guys - even got some good coaching from patrick...

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Old 10-29-2005, 03:12 PM   #62
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nahhhh... i'm just thinking better skills at controlling your bike at highway speeds... less likely to panic in dealing with a close cager... you know - being calm during evasive maneuvers kinda skills...

i dunno... i feel soooo much more relaxed when i commute these days... even my reactions seem more like reflexes and they're smoother - i find that i don't have to think about things so much... anyway (personally) i gotta give some of the credit for that to what i've learned from porter, ronnie, alan tan, and ALL the lstd guys - even got some good coaching from patrick...

meh... to each his own bro... it's all good...
i hear you but im more paranoid on the street. i rarely go out to ride now cuz i want to avoid traffic and street conditions. i felt more relaxed on the street before a track day because i was use to avoiding cars, potholes, etc. but on the track its so smooth and no distractions just reflexes.

the guys at LSTD and Ridesmart put on a good show. i want to get a cruiser type bike for street so it wont be as easy for me to relapse back into my street days.
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the guys at LSTD and Ridesmart put on a good show. i want to get a cruiser type bike for street so it wont be as easy for me to relapse back into my street days.
Word... same here. I'm looking at getting something like a BMW GS1200 or Buell Ulysses. SOmething that has some sporty nature to it, but that I can tour and go offroading a little bit.
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Word... same here. I'm looking at getting something like a BMW GS1200 or Buell Ulysses. SOmething that has some sporty nature to it, but that I can tour and go offroading a little bit.
you paranoid too huh? looking at that same Buell and a yamaha warrior.
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I think they are like $12k... but if you get the luggage (which I will) it's $800 more. They had one at HD dealership by the Woodlands... I've read 3 reviews on it and all have said it's hands down the best Buell you can buy and a serious challenger to BMWs throne!

The BMW is like $15k... but it has GPS! :icon_bigg
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the fact that j had some bike damage greatly raised his out of pocket expenses no doubt...
nothing happened to the bike or myself...I think you misunderstand what I was trying to say...It costs more than $200 for a trackday if you calculate the fuel it takes to get there and back plus renting leathers if you don't have them. I already have all of that and I DON'T MIND PAYING FOR A TRACKDAY because I know I'll get experience and results from there...but when you guys tell othere riders that it doesn't cost any more than 2 c-notes per trackday, I think that not entirely accurate depending on what the individual already owns (i.e. gear, truck, etc).

What I don't like is people coming on the board talking to me like they know me, assuming I WOULDN'T pay $160 per trackday...I that was the case this wouldn't be my 3rd day this year...yeah yeah I know I haven't been around long enough to say anything, but at least I'm trying....SO DON'T judge before knowing any sort of facts...that me off
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Track riding is definitely pricier, this year I've been track only and it's not easy on the bank account. Here is my list of expenses for trackdays...

Trackday: $150

Tires every 2 trackdays: $250

Brake pads/fluid every 2 trackdays: $40

Gas to and from the trackday and for the bike: $50 - $150

Hotel stay (at some trackdays): $80

Food: $15

Pictures (every few trackdays): $35

So for me... a rough estimate indicates a trackday costs me around $350 - $400 plus many times I have to take a day off of work.

Also, despite being at the track where it's safer to crash... many people are more likely to crash there because of egos which lead to pushing and pushing your limits. Last year I spent about $2500 fixing my bike after a crash. Insurance does NOT cover a trackbike.

One last thing, don't forget about upgrades... I'm one of the VERY few people who've resisted this temptation. My bike is bone stock.

Front fork revalving/respringing: $500 - $750

Rear shock: $800 - $1200

DOT Race Tires: $300 per set

Front/Rear Stands: $100 - $200

Tire Warmers: $400

While it's pricier it's more worth it to me... this way, unless I make a stupid mistake, I'm almost guaranteed to come home to my wife every time I go riding.
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so we all know its a expensive bike to own and going to a trackday doesnt make it cheaper. the fact we all chose to do track days seperate us from others in the sense that its more expensive for the style of riding we do with these sportbikes.

if all we did was cruise the strip -OR- were trying to get into track days -OR- was looking into buying a sportbike then the comment of:
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nice vid. as soon as i get the new bike im hitting up the track hopefully i can see 2:15s in the beginning when i get out there.
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i hear you but im more paranoid on the street. i rarely go out to ride now cuz i want to avoid traffic and street conditions. i felt more relaxed on the street before a track day because i was use to avoiding cars, potholes, etc. but on the track its so smooth and no distractions just reflexes.

the guys at LSTD and Ridesmart put on a good show. i want to get a cruiser type bike for street so it wont be as easy for me to relapse back into my street days.
lol where's that thread on houston imports where i said that would happen and you said not likely and put this smiley

told you that track is so addictive and so much safer. also when you compare curves on the track and the stret there's no comparison at all. you look back at the street like: Man that turn is .

i'm getting a cruiser bike soon too if i can find the right used 636 race bike first.
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i'm getting a cruiser bike soon too if i can find the right used 636 race bike first.

hmm...arturo is often imitated but never duplicated :laughing6
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hmm...arturo is often imitated but never duplicated :laughing6
how can you tell the original from the fake?
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i didnt relize trackdays were so costly$$$. hope to go soon though
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Riding at the track is cheap when compared to hitting a light pole at 90mph.
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IMO, there are 2 general ways to look at track days.

Full blown track addict/racer (gets very expensive). You'll spend lots of $$ on tires, repairs, gear, track day supplies, pit stuff, etc.

However, there are lots of guys that do 2 to 3 track days a year for very little money. They use it as a chance to come out and run their bike to see more of what their sport bikes are capable of. They run street tires, don't use tire warmers, and use it to better develop their riding skills. Other than the cost of the track day and fuel, there is little to buy.

As far as leathers go, you should own full leathers, boots, gloves, and a helmet if you ride a sport bike regardless of whether you hit the track at all. Mandatory gear, IMO. It is inspires a huge amount of confidence. You'll be amazed how confident you feel, when fully protected. twocents
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