MotoHouston.com MotoHouston.com
Register Members List Member Map Media Calendar Garage Forum Home Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MotoHouston.com > General Discussion > General Discussion (Moto Related)
Forgot info?

Welcome to MotoHouston.com! You are currently viewing our forums as a guest which gives you limited access to the community. By joining our free community you will have access to great discounts from our sponsors, the ability to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content, free email, classifieds, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join our community!

Register Today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.


Like us on Facebook! Regular shirt GIVEAWAYS and more

Advertisement

Reply
Share This Thread: 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
Old 06-13-2008, 09:16 AM   #1
RACER X
what R you lookin' at?
 
RACER X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Richmond, Tx
Feedback Rating: (26)
Posts: 33,491

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 8

Bike(s):
'14 Honda GROM! 181cc of fury!!
'10 Aprilia Tuono Factory-SOLD
'08 Busa - sold
A few more bought
A few more sold






bikes polute more then trucks

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/motorcycles-pol.html



quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Motorcycles and scooters are an appealing alternative to shelling out big bucks filling up the family truckster, which is one reason sales are going through the roof. But riding on two wheels may not be any more environmentally responsible than riding on four.

Turns out the average motorcycle is 10 times more polluting per mile than a passenger car, light truck or SUV. It seems counter-intuitive, because motorcycles are about twice as fuel-efficient as cars and emit a lot less C02.

So what gives?

Susan Carpenter lays it all out in a Los Angeles Times column. She found that, although motorcycles and scooters comprise 3.6 percent of registered vehicles in California and 1 percent of vehicle miles traveled, they account for 10 percent of passenger vehicles' smog-forming emissions.

Motorcycle engines are twice as efficient as automobile engines, she notes, so they generally emit less carbon dioxide. But they emit large amounts of nitrogen oxides, which along with hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide are measured by state and federal air quality regulators to determine whether vehicles meet emissions rules.

Catalytic converters and other emissions control devices would clean things up, but they're often too big, too heavy or too hot to install on motorcycles. For that reason and others that Carpenter outlines in the column, the Environmental Protection Agency and California Air Resources Board are more lenient when it comes to motorcycle emissions.

"The emissions picture [for motorcycles] is pretty grim," she quotes John Swanton of the Air Resources Board saying, "but we think it's fair for where motorcycles are today."

Full disclosure: the author of this post rides a motorcycle.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
2014 GROM
181cc's BABY!
Trump/Zimmerman 2016
Make America Great Again!
RACER X is online now   Reply With Quote
Similar Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
trucks? CUSTOM ZX-14 Off Topic 13 04-30-2014 10:20 PM
TACO TRUCKS, where are the best ones NewRider Off Topic 68 07-30-2013 10:29 PM
taco trucks rick Off Topic 41 12-03-2012 09:43 PM
Garbage Trucks chfranco General Discussion (Moto Related) 16 03-24-2011 07:33 PM
Trucks. AaronP220 Off Topic 46 12-04-2010 09:19 AM
Advertisement
Old 06-13-2008, 09:18 AM   #2
Chubby Racer
The Confusion
 
Chubby Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: between a chair and a screen
Feedback Rating: (2)
Posts: 19,399

Experience: 8 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
'07 R6
'02 KLX110(tarded)








Send a message via ICQ to Chubby Racer Send a message via AIM to Chubby Racer Send a message via MSN to Chubby Racer Send a message via Yahoo to Chubby Racer
Jesus Christ people will find anything to about.




Most new sportbikes have cats on them anyway. I know my '07 gixxer does.
__________________
A motorcycle is a joy machine. It's a machine of wonders, a metal bird, a motorized prosthetic. It's light and dark and shiny and dirty and warm and cold lapping over each other; it's a conduit of grace, it's a catalyst for bonding the gritty and the holy.

CMRA #302
Chubby Racer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:19 AM   #3
RACER X
what R you lookin' at?
 
RACER X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Richmond, Tx
Feedback Rating: (26)
Posts: 33,491

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 8

Bike(s):
'14 Honda GROM! 181cc of fury!!
'10 Aprilia Tuono Factory-SOLD
'08 Busa - sold
A few more bought
A few more sold






my bike did in '00

thing is most peeps change them out. prolly not in the future. makes sense.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
2014 GROM
181cc's BABY!
Trump/Zimmerman 2016
Make America Great Again!
RACER X is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:20 AM   #4
Whorenet
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NWC
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,903


Bike(s):
cbr600, cbrxx 1100 blackbird, kazuma 110 derty, springer forked 1/2 chopper...more to come









User is banned

.
Whorenet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:22 AM   #5
RACER X
what R you lookin' at?
 
RACER X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Richmond, Tx
Feedback Rating: (26)
Posts: 33,491

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 8

Bike(s):
'14 Honda GROM! 181cc of fury!!
'10 Aprilia Tuono Factory-SOLD
'08 Busa - sold
A few more bought
A few more sold






professor whorenet has spoken

/thread.

this ain't fog.

China20pollution20Beijing
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
2014 GROM
181cc's BABY!
Trump/Zimmerman 2016
Make America Great Again!
RACER X is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:25 AM   #6
tiatool
Pro Racer Mode Enabled
 
tiatool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Gunspoint
Feedback Rating: (14)
Posts: 8,691

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
08 Raven
05 Vstar 1100





Interesting. But my bike has a cat, actually two because the y pipe is stuffed as well. Also has anti smog system (ais). And im not even going to get into the enviromental benefits of the exup system. So Im kind of confused. Does she mean harleys when she says most bikes?
tiatool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:27 AM   #7
av8_r22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Katy
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 253


Bike(s):
2005 SV650S









I'd like to know what they consider to be an "average" motorcycle, and what they consider to be "a passenger car, light truck or SUV."

If they mean the average motorcycle on the road (MANY of which have modified exhausts and/or are very old) vs a brand new, unmodified cage, they're probably right on. How fair of an example is that, though.

I have a really hard time believing that a brand new, unmodified motorcycle puts out 10x the emissions of a brand new cage.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorenet View Post
^wtf? lol

who fuking cares.......nothing we do can effect the environment and anyone who believes it can......well guys, youre sadly mistaken.....global warming is a myth.....

water polution is the only real concern we have because it effects our consumable supply....
You, sir, are ignorant.
__________________
av8 r22
av8_r22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:31 AM   #8
Crystalline
Can't ride now...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Houston
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 9,376

Experience: 2 years
Trackdays: 1











Send a message via Yahoo to Crystalline
Quote:
Originally Posted by av8_r22 View Post

You, sir, are ignorant.
Lol, for once I have to say I'm sorry you believe that.
Here is a link and another link for you.

Also, if this article is correct (which I doubt) we will have more motorcycles/mopeds on the road by the end of fall than ever because....... of gas prices.
__________________
sunshine

Last edited by Crystalline; 06-13-2008 at 09:36 AM.
Crystalline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:32 AM   #9
Whorenet
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NWC
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,903


Bike(s):
cbr600, cbrxx 1100 blackbird, kazuma 110 derty, springer forked 1/2 chopper...more to come









User is banned

.
Whorenet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:37 AM   #10
RACER X
what R you lookin' at?
 
RACER X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Richmond, Tx
Feedback Rating: (26)
Posts: 33,491

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 8

Bike(s):
'14 Honda GROM! 181cc of fury!!
'10 Aprilia Tuono Factory-SOLD
'08 Busa - sold
A few more bought
A few more sold






but the reality is that LA and everybody is polluting everyday.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
2014 GROM
181cc's BABY!
Trump/Zimmerman 2016
Make America Great Again!
RACER X is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:39 AM   #11
Ulric
Dirty Old
 
Ulric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Spring
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 9,633

Experience: 10+ years

Bike(s):
05 FZ1









This isn't fog either...
__________________
"new joke tomorrow..."

Last edited by Ulric; 08-19-2009 at 09:35 PM.
Ulric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:40 AM   #12
Crystalline
Can't ride now...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Houston
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 9,376

Experience: 2 years
Trackdays: 1











Send a message via Yahoo to Crystalline
Quote:
Originally Posted by RACER X View Post
but the reality is that LA and everybody is polluting everyday.
So polluting causes global warming!!!! I finally get it!!!


/end of sarcasm
__________________
sunshine
Crystalline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:42 AM   #13
Crystalline
Can't ride now...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Houston
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 9,376

Experience: 2 years
Trackdays: 1











Send a message via Yahoo to Crystalline

I think it's about time you guys go green and set an example instead of talking about it.
__________________
sunshine
Crystalline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:43 AM   #14
Whorenet
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NWC
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,903


Bike(s):
cbr600, cbrxx 1100 blackbird, kazuma 110 derty, springer forked 1/2 chopper...more to come









User is banned

.
Whorenet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:44 AM   #15
Whorenet
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NWC
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 8,903


Bike(s):
cbr600, cbrxx 1100 blackbird, kazuma 110 derty, springer forked 1/2 chopper...more to come









User is banned

.
Whorenet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:46 AM   #16
Crystalline
Can't ride now...
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Houston
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 9,376

Experience: 2 years
Trackdays: 1











Send a message via Yahoo to Crystalline
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whorenet View Post
ok simple fact.....global warming isnt man made....

the current temp rise is natural and cyclical......we have 0 to do with the glaciers melting.

fossil record and paleoclimatology prove this.

so does the geologic time scale.....

o and also? hear anything lately about the hole in the ozone layer?

no you sure havent.....thats because it closed itself up....yet again, naturally occuring
Aaaaannnd so did my Geology Professor.

He did a good job of explaining all the politics in this "global warming" business.
__________________
sunshine
Crystalline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:47 AM   #17
04RSVR
Professional Jack @ss
 
04RSVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: League City
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 3,195

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
BMW K1200 R Sport
Honda 305 Superhawk project bike
working on a motoped







Was that by percentage of vehicle emissions or by total volume? I will agree that we may have a higher percentage of pollutants in out exhaust but I find it hard to believe that the total volume of exhaust put out by a large V-8 is better for the enviornment than my sv-650.
__________________
I believe in luck. The harder I work the more luck I seem to have.

"It is better to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow." -- Mann
04RSVR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:50 AM   #18
06fairedfz1
rslts may vary
 
06fairedfz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: league city
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 2,628

Experience: 5 years

Bike(s):
2004 raven r1
2009 sportsman 500








just exxon's way of making us spend more money
__________________


Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
06fairedfz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 09:58 AM   #19
KeeBee
Old man
 
KeeBee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Katy
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 298

Experience: 10+ years

Bike(s):
12 HD Street Glide
11 HD Softail Deluxe
SOLD 08 Liquid Silver R6
STOLEN 93 GSXR 750






Send a message via AIM to KeeBee
Cutting off my CAT so mine is about to get worse! Wewt!
KeeBee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2008, 10:01 AM   #20
06fairedfz1
rslts may vary
 
06fairedfz1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: league city
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 2,628

Experience: 5 years

Bike(s):
2004 raven r1
2009 sportsman 500








already gutted the cat and muffler on mine, as well as my diesel, cat and muffler laying next to the house.
__________________


Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
06fairedfz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Advertisement


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:47 AM.


MotoHouston.com is not responsible for the content posted by users.
Privacy Policy