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Old 06-04-2008, 03:11 PM   #81
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hopefully that won't happen, but i'm telling the truth about how he rides. I'm nowhere near as good as him, nor do I ride anything at all like him...infact I hate wheelies, i'm more into turns. Truthfully I'd rather take it to the track, but track days are very expensive....don't have $150-$200 to just throw around everytime I feel like making turns.
wonder how much tickets are for 120 in a 35, or wreckless driving ticket is?
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wonder how much tickets are for 120 in a 35, or wreckless driving ticket is?
Most likely they will take him to jail.
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When I was in MSF, I told the instructor that I wanted a 250 to start with. After the classes he told me to not to buy the 250 and to step it up to a 500 or 600 and that I would regret the 250. I'm glad I listened. It wasn't hard learning the 600 if you take your time to learn them. Too many people buy 600/750/1000's and want to drive them like 250's and hurt themselves.
2 of my fellow inst. friends bought 250's on the last few yrs, both have other bikes and have been riding 40+ yrs. 1's also an inst. w/ LSTD.
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Most likely they will take him to jail.
will that be more then a trackday?
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i rode a 125 at msf. it was my first time ever on a motorcycle. i just bought my first bike and its a 750. i feel really comfortable on the bike. its up to you
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and your vast experience is enough to relay this info to others?
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Not personally, yet it is intuitive don't you think?
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I started on a f4i glad i didnt get a 250

Told my msf instructors this at the little intro thing who/how much experience/etc etc both said it was a good choice and my father who also teaches there agreed with me as well so to answer your question I am now very pleased with my choice regret nothing and would recomend a 600 to anybody that i knew to be mature enough to handle it
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that depends... starting on a 2008 R6 is way torquer and powerful than a 1999 R6. I started on a F4i back in 01 or 02...but a 600RR is not the same...

No regrets though... but if I had to do it over again, I would do a smaller bike and/or an older model 600cc bike.
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I'm have no regrets starting on the 250...it was a great bike for me. Sometimes I think I should have kept it a bit longer...but I do so love my Gixxer!!!
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I will say that it depends on the person riding. If you ride like a idiot then you have just as much of a chance crashing 250 as you do a 600. As long as you know your limits and surroundings it really should not matter
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2 of my fellow inst. friends bought 250's on the last few yrs, both have other bikes and have been riding 40+ yrs. 1's also an inst. w/ LSTD.
and he was burning a guy a on 675 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on it as well

I started on a 600 but wouldn't of had I known about this site at the time. I'm still alive and have yet to have a wreck(on the street...knockin on wood) but then again I will prob never ride a sport bike on the street again. I consider myself fortunate to never have sustained any injuries from the dumb I used to do on that 600:/:....
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i may incur the wrath of racer x here, but i personally dont think the ninja 250 is a good starter bike. it has no guts to get you out of danger. they feel like they need new clutches right out of the crate. the small idle jets make it prone to needing carb cleans, making the bike more difficult to ride.

a 250 may be powerless enough to keep you out of danger, but your own discipline and responsability should do that. a tiny engine is not a replacement for a good head on your shoulders.

imo, gs500 or similar is a far far better choice. older 600's like f3, bandits, etc can be good, provided they dont have a ton of maintenance needed. alot depends on the rider.

for the record i started on a 1986 VFR700. looking back, it being heavy was the only drawback as a starter bike. the upright position keeps you more aware with your head up. the power was smooooooth, no peaks and valleys, no flat spots, just a nice predictable curve.
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you might use your brain and keep out of the sits, the you "need" hp to get you out of.

discipline and respon. out of a 20 something y.o. riding a sportbike, rare and far between.
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Searched around and didn't find a thread like this one.

If you went against what everyone said and started out on a 600cc+ bike instead of a 250 do you regret it?

I was talking to my buddy who started out on a 99 CBR f4 (the bike I learned on before the MSF) and to this day says he regrets not learning on a 250.

Granted I have never owned my own bike (hopefully to change by the end of the week) but I learned on a 600, took the MSF, and feel confident that getting a 600 for my own would fine.

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what kind of riding are you refering to ? street or track ?
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i started on an f4I and i am soooo glad i didnt go with something smaller. to me its fast enough to show you how a bike can be but small enough to learn what a bike should feel like when you ride it..... that may be confusing but i dont care. ive been riding 600s for 5 years now and im justgetting to where i want a faster bike. if i can just ride where ever wide open then its time and yes that time has come.
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