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Old 06-03-2008, 12:26 PM   #41
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i only live a mile away from my job so i take the car to work m-t and ride the bike on weekends when i go out. but i spend more money in gas just on the bike so i guess its a win-win for me cuz i like the a/c
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:29 PM   #42
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Anyone tried to spend $200 at Krogers on a bike? I really like A/C to. I think I'll keep a car and ride when it's convenient.

It does make sence that a bike is cheaper short term. I think long term it's better to have a car.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:43 PM   #43
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Sh*t now a days thats two to three bags...
easily fit in a backpack/tankbag, etc..


The pump isn't the only place we are getting a*s raped..


Yeah Brother! Its a job trying to keep the finances able to float the entire boat. I need to find a better paying job!
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:43 PM   #44
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did not take into account breakage on car or bike.
he mentioned maintenance, if nothing did break on either car or bike, why would he need to mention it?

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Even then he rode 7k miles in a year? thats less than 6 weeks for me. So at his $3 a gallon, he saves 100$ a year that would be 100$ a month for me in my commute.
odd, 6 weeks in a month. you say 100$ a month, but at 100$ every 6 weeks, you're year has under 9 months in it. still significantly more than what they said, but only 75% of what people would normally see a year as.

also at your 60k miles a year plus you will go through plenty of maintenance, hopefully doing as much of it yourself as you can if you hope to save any money at all.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:51 PM   #45
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I was very close to buying a vette before I got my bike. After getting a bike, I get a much better "fix" for speed when riding it, with a tenth of what I probably would have paid for the sportscar to begin with. That's how I feel like I'm saving, or atleast saved.
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I want to discuss this.
My bike really does save me a lot of money. Here's the breakdown of my car vs my bike.

Monthly mileage - 2500 miles.
Price of gallon today $3.85

Car - 1986 Toyota MR2.
MPG - 28 on a good day
Insurance - $75 monthly
Oil change - $28

So using my car for a month to get to work and back I spend
(2500/28) X $3.85 + $75 + $28 = $446.75


Bike - 2005 Ninja 250.
MPG - 67mpg (I get 200miles out of 3 gallons every time)
Insurance - $10 monthly
Oil change - $34

So using my car for a month to get to work and back I spend
(2500/67) X $3.85 + $10 + $34 = $187.65

That, folks is $260 saved a month! Will be a lot more once gas goes up another dollar.

Car is parked, insurance on it suspended and is for sale in the appropriate forum section.
What about you?

As with a few others, I just can't see using my bike as my daily to save some money. The safety risk is just not worth it in this city (especially when it rains). Not to mention the headache of needing to actually carry any for of cargo thats too big for a saddle/tank bag or back pack. Im sure would just enjoy the 90+ degree weather with a heat index of the sun lol

If gas is really hurting you...here is a cheap suggestion:

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...eo-metro-4.htm

Almost 60 mpg.

And here:
http://houston.craigslist.org/search...sk=max&addTwo=

$700 OBO.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:58 PM   #47
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While I don't refute that you can save by commuting on a bike, to me the $$ saved does not negate the higher risk of commuting daily with houston traffic. I've never taken my bike to work now that I work downtown, people drive like nutcases here on these one way streets, and the buses will try to run you over as well. To help counter higher gas prices I altered my route somewhat. I take a slightly congested 290 in the morning (I'm on it plenty early) and my normal route back home. Saved me half a gallon a day and about 2.50 per day in tolls. I actually do see a difference in my consumption. Bike to me is a fun vehicle, not a means to get me from point a to point b. Once I get all my ducks in a row I'm going to do far more track days than on the street.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:19 PM   #48
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truck 15-17 mpg r1 50-68 mpg it saves in gas bill
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:28 PM   #49
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Man I have a Sequioa, Land Rover and and SC400...all of which are 4 liter V8's or bigger. I'm kinda getting murdered on gas...but I never drive the Lex and roundtrip to work is 12 miles. The wife works from home so she hardly ever drives...

I rarely ride the bike to work
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:30 PM   #50
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me saves lots of cash. and i have alot more fun.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:31 PM   #51
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:05 PM   #52
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Today I had a few minutes to kill, so I decided to see what kind of gas mileage I get out of my bike in the long run. And, since I was at it, I decided to also see if I am saving money in the long run by riding the bike instead of driving a car. To use Microsoft's acronyms, I tried to estimate the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership).

The executive summary is that the cost of maintenance is roughly equal to what I save in fuel. Of course, I spend less on car maintenance as a result, so there are some savings. If you are interested in the details, read on.

I've been riding it for almost a year, and it is interesting to average gas mileage over that period. In my accounting records I keep track of how much gas was put in at every fill up, mileage since the previous fill up and gas price (just so I can keep track of the historical gas prices, if I ever want to look that up).

I have 7233 miles / 111.457 gallons = 64.89 mpg. In the same time frame my Accord shows roughly 28 mpg. That's roughly 200 gallons saved over the course of 10 months (assuming that every trip I took on a bike I would've taken on a car instead, if I did not have a bike, which is not a bad assumption because almost all of the miles on the bike are just commuting). Gas prices seemed to hover around $3 over the past year, so that would be 200 * 3 = $600 in savings.

Since we are at it, let's do some more number-crunching. Insurance costs me $16/month. $16*10 months = $160. Tabs - $55. There were 4 oil/filter changes (80, 500, 3000, 6000 miles). Each is roughly $10. Can of chain lubricant is another $10 and a can of cable lube with a contraption to apply it was another $20, and I have plenty left. So, let's say I used $15 of that stuff. I have worn ~60-70% of the rear tire and have very little wear on the front. If we were to amortize that, let's say I've used $70 worth of rubber. I do my own maintenance, so there is no added cost there. (If you pay to have your maintenance done there is no way you will save any money in this scheme.) I will not include any “upgrades”, like lights in extra pods, bigger sprocket, rack, or hard top-case, as these are technically not consumables, and I could have done without them. For simplicity's sake, let's also assume that I will completely replace all of my gear in 5 years. That'd be roughly $100/year (and is a pretty conservative estimate). Tally up... 160+55+40+15+70+100=440. There's an unknown amount of chain wear, brake pads wear, other wear, fluids needing to be changed, etc. That should easily add up to $60 per year, making the total $500 if no repairs are needed

So, by riding a bike conservatively, servicing it myself and buying inexpensive gear I am saving roughly $100 per year. At best. Realistically, I probably would just break even - the savings in gas money would be completely offset by wear & tear and maintenance costs. In other words, riding the bike only saves me money I would've spent on car maintenance.

The result is: Yes, it will save you money, in the best possible scenario. In a more likely scenario, however, the bike will cost you more to own than not to. Also, a bike any more expensive than a 250 will cost you more money than you will save in any case.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I%27m_g...uying_an_EX250

Well said. I save a little, over a car like a VW GTI, however I save money over having a bike and a car. I save money over having a nice car. I break even with a cheap economical commuting car, so its choose this or the bike. Well done on the number crunching. I know I calculate $90 a month for my budget ($45 a paycheck) and save for whatever gear I want or oil changes and tires from that. So I but something on paypay no interest for 90 days, and pay it off in 2. That with ins, payments, etc, makes it more expensive than a cheap car......BUT who goes around taking on the twisties in a Toyota Camry!

I ride for the love it, rain or shine.

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Old 06-03-2008, 04:55 PM   #53
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I save quite a bit just because of the amount of driving I do. I have rode nearly 11k miles since I bought my bike brand new in late October of last year. If you would figure the price difference on the much gas it would be tremendous.
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replacing tires every 5-6k, vs a car at say 30k, so you'll replace tires 5x on a bike for 1x on a car. so if you ride 18k a yr, you'll replace 3 sets of tires @> $200 set.

and most sportbikes tires only last 3-4k.

chain, every 15-20k
Something's wrong if you can't better 15-20k miles out of a chain.

Maybe a EX250's different, but I can get that out of my 520 kit on my 1000RR easily.
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:25 PM   #56
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lemme see I pay 90/yr for ins. I change tires about twice a year and chain/sprocket bout every 2 years

it costs me about 115 a month for my bike, thats about a tank and a half for my truck!

yep I save money
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15mpg in my Vette, 38-40mpg or so with both the Repsol and the TLR. When the car gets back from paint it'll see limited driving time, shared with the bikes. When I work days and have to hit afternoon traffic I take the car-A/C is good. Otherwise I take one of the bikes. If it's a weekend i take the bike too. my gas bill offsets my tire use as it's a 42 mile round trip to and from work.
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15mpg in my Vette, 38-40mpg or so with both the Repsol and the TLR. When the car gets back from paint it'll see limited driving time, shared with the bikes. When I work days and have to hit afternoon traffic I take the car-A/C is good. Otherwise I take one of the bikes. If it's a weekend i take the bike too. my gas bill offsets my tire use as it's a 42 mile round trip to and from work.
I usually average 23 mpg commuting in my 89 vette, pushing 30 if I go on a trip cruising at 80 - 85.... and dont get on the gas too much
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I am with Jet on the 12 mpg out of the truck. When gas was $2 gallon a figured out that if I rode my bike for 68000 it was paid for, with with gas almost $4 gallon that half the miles any my bike already has 30k on it. The tires are the biggest issue, but I run free take offs so have not paid for rear tire in like 10k miles at least.
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