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Old 06-01-2008, 04:05 PM   #21
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:40 PM   #22
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Name a 200lbs+ Moto GP champion.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:44 PM   #23
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Name a 200lbs+ Moto GP champion.

i don't think that there are many riders here at that level that need the weight advantage.
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:46 PM   #24
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It's easier to add HP than it is to workout...lol But the HP/Weight is not a linear equation. There is a breakover threashold. I don't know the exact equation but I do know that it isn't linear.
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It's easier to add HP than it is to workout...lol But the HP/Weight is not a linear equation. There is a breakover threashold. I don't know the exact equation but I do know that it isn't linear.
what your saying is your bike will only get so fast once you hit that point in the weight chart.
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not horse power but at the drag strip it was about every 100 lbs was a tenth of a second so shave a 100 lbs lose some time hince why all the ricers strip out their interiors
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always cracked me up that they striped out their interiors...

they guys that use to street race us in California use to do that. There isn't alot of weight in the seats and panels. I enjoyed the fact that my near stock saab brought four people to the races and still knocked around the hondas when they got tired of seeing me not racing... And that's a heavy four cylinder...
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On a bike it is alot different. Anywhere you can shave weight helps; especially in the exhaust. I noticed a big difference and that was before tuning; so I knew it was the weight factor I felt.

The new 1000s are so much lighter with such tremendous horsepower for their size that they lift up so effortlessly; the light weight feel really makes the difference. Now pick up the front of a busa and you'll feel the whole bike pitch to the side cuz its alot of weight for that chain to move.

That's why I try to talk to people who learned on older carbed 600s and want to move to a new 1000 before they even tried riding anything FI from the 2ks... especially 2005 on... they don't know the changes these bikes have gone through between a short stretch of years.
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every hundred pounds is about a tenth of a second against u
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OK, I've seen everything from 3lbs to 5lbs to 7lbs to 10lbs = 1 HP. Which is it?
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what your saying is your bike will only get so fast once you hit that point in the weight chart.
i think it works like bdmpastx said too that makes sense
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OK, I've seen everything from 3lbs to 5lbs to 7lbs to 10lbs = 1 HP. Which is it?
If your power to weight ratio (lbs/hp) is 3:1 it's 3 pounds; 5:1 it's 5 pounds; 7:1 its 7 pounds; 10:1 it's 10 pounds per HP. What's your P:W ratio?

Take a 450lb bike and a 200lb rider (bike gassed and rider fully geared) that makes 100HP at the wheel and you have a ratio of 6.5:1. Add or remove 6.5 lbs has approximately the same affect on acceleration as adding or removing 1hp (affect on handling favors removing weight over adding HP so there's an added bonus to shedding weight). The reason that the equation is not linear is that the power to weight ratio also changes when you start making more significant changes in weight or HP.

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Old 06-01-2008, 11:09 PM   #34
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If your power to weight ratio (lbs/hp) is 3:1 it's 3 pounds; 5:1 it's 5 pounds; 7:1 its 7 pounds; 10:1 it's 10 pounds per HP. What's your P:W ratio?

Take a 450lb bike and a 200lb rider (bike gassed and rider fully geared) that makes 100HP at the wheel and you have a ratio of 6.5:1. Add or remove 6.5 lbs has approximately the same affect on acceleration as adding or removing 1hp (affect on handling favors removing weight over adding HP so there's an added bonus to shedding weight). The reason that the equation is not linear is that the power to weight ratio also changes when you start making more significant changes in weight or HP.
all i can say is WOW !!! im glad yall are figurin this kinda stuff out...cuz my math skills suck !!!!
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