MotoHouston.com MotoHouston.com
Register Members List Member Map Media Calendar Garage Forum Home Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MotoHouston.com > General Discussion > Taking it to the Track > Mini's, Motards & Flattrack Racing
Forgot info?

Welcome to MotoHouston.com! You are currently viewing our forums as a guest which gives you limited access to the community. By joining our free community you will have access to great discounts from our sponsors, the ability to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content, free email, classifieds, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join our community!

Register Today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.


FREE MH Decals by MAIL!

Reply
Share This Thread: 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
Old 05-26-2008, 06:10 PM   #1
BlackWidow
The Doctor
 
BlackWidow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sugar Land
Feedback Rating: (8)
Posts: 2,884

Experience: 5 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
A Ducati
A KaToom
Several Yamahas...
Some Kawis
No HONDAS! ;)






Send a message via AIM to BlackWidow
Which & Why?

If you had to pick...

"which" and "why" - 3 reasons

KTM 450 or the Aprilla 450 (SMs)
__________________
A tip somebody gave me on Endurance Racing...

It is necessary to relax your muscles when you can. Relaxing your brain is fatal...
BlackWidow is offline   Reply With Quote
Similar Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The FTC Sues AT&T Over ‘Unlimited’ Data Claims' -- AT&T sucks as usual silverfudge Off Topic 15 10-29-2014 11:22 AM
O'reilly Nationals 2010, Fri & Sun!!! & cool clips!!! SaraR Events, Meets and Rides 6 04-07-2010 09:09 PM
2008 Arcade & Pinball Expo - tonight & tomorrow MadseasoN Events, Meets and Rides 8 11-08-2008 08:03 PM
June 7&8 and August 9&10 MULTI DAY SPECIAL PRICING Ridesmart Ridesmart Motorcycle School 5 06-05-2008 09:41 PM
Advertisement
Old 05-26-2008, 06:33 PM   #2
mekrew
naaaaaw i sayin
 
mekrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 9,778

Experience: 1-3 months
Trackdays: 10+






Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to mekrew
come to the dark side already
mekrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2008, 06:34 PM   #3
BlackWidow
The Doctor
 
BlackWidow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sugar Land
Feedback Rating: (8)
Posts: 2,884

Experience: 5 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
A Ducati
A KaToom
Several Yamahas...
Some Kawis
No HONDAS! ;)






Send a message via AIM to BlackWidow
Quote:
Originally Posted by mekrew View Post
come to the dark side already
LOL, I've been on the dark side since I started racing the SM in TMGP.

How about a test ride on your 450 to get a feel of which to go with...
__________________
A tip somebody gave me on Endurance Racing...

It is necessary to relax your muscles when you can. Relaxing your brain is fatal...
BlackWidow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2008, 06:35 PM   #4
GABRIEL
Senior Member
 
GABRIEL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SW/SE Houston
Feedback Rating: (14)
Posts: 7,184

Experience: 1-3 months











I rode MJ's KTM450 and that thing was sick.
GABRIEL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2008, 06:45 PM   #5
mekrew
naaaaaw i sayin
 
mekrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 9,778

Experience: 1-3 months
Trackdays: 10+






Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to mekrew
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackWidow View Post
LOL, I've been on the dark side since I started racing the SM in TMGP.

How about a test ride on your 450 to get a feel of which to go with...
let me know you break you buy
mekrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 07:35 AM   #6
jodyhudson
Senior Member
 
jodyhudson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Feedback Rating: (5)
Posts: 4,297

Experience: 10+ years











Send a message via Yahoo to jodyhudson
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackWidow View Post
If you had to pick...

"which" and "why" - 3 reasons

KTM 450 or the Aprilla 450 (SMs)
KTM 450... because the Aprilia will always break. the Aprilia is a much more impressive machine & more fun to ride. it just lacks the reliability that the KTM has. you should definately put a slipper clutch in it after you get one.
jodyhudson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 11:48 AM   #7
BlackWidow
The Doctor
 
BlackWidow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sugar Land
Feedback Rating: (8)
Posts: 2,884

Experience: 5 years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
A Ducati
A KaToom
Several Yamahas...
Some Kawis
No HONDAS! ;)






Send a message via AIM to BlackWidow
Quote:
Originally Posted by jodyhudson View Post
KTM 450... because the Aprilia will always break. the Aprilia is a much more impressive machine & more fun to ride. it just lacks the reliability that the KTM has. you should definately put a slipper clutch in it after you get one.
Jody,

I thought the motor issues were limited to the 550s only? Are the 450s just as prone to get the issue?

What years are "clean" - I can't afford the 08s. At this point I am looking at 2005-2006 year bikes.

Thanks.

Mekrew - I'll definitly take you up on that offer
__________________
A tip somebody gave me on Endurance Racing...

It is necessary to relax your muscles when you can. Relaxing your brain is fatal...
BlackWidow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 11:54 AM   #8
mekrew
naaaaaw i sayin
 
mekrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 9,778

Experience: 1-3 months
Trackdays: 10+






Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to mekrew
what advantages does the slipper clutch have ? for the downshifting and wheel lockup ?

Last edited by mekrew; 05-27-2008 at 11:57 AM.
mekrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 03:20 PM   #9
jodyhudson
Senior Member
 
jodyhudson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Feedback Rating: (5)
Posts: 4,297

Experience: 10+ years











Send a message via Yahoo to jodyhudson
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackWidow View Post
Jody,

I thought the motor issues were limited to the 550s only? Are the 450s just as prone to get the issue?

What years are "clean" - I can't afford the 08s. At this point I am looking at 2005-2006 year bikes.

Thanks.

Mekrew - I'll definitly take you up on that offer
they all have that issue 550 & 450. if your smart you'll build a honda. they are bulletproof & fast. ktm's are a definately nice because you dont have to build it. you just buy it and ride it. but you cant beat the speed and reliability of a Honda 450.
jodyhudson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 03:23 PM   #10
jodyhudson
Senior Member
 
jodyhudson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Feedback Rating: (5)
Posts: 4,297

Experience: 10+ years











Send a message via Yahoo to jodyhudson
Quote:
Originally Posted by mekrew View Post
what advantages does the slipper clutch have ? for the downshifting and wheel lockup ?
yes, it keeps the rear wheel from hopping & chattering while engine braking into the corners. you can learn to modulate that with the rear brake & clutch lever, but that takes sum time to learn how to do. its much easier with a slipper clutch... u just make your downshifts & dump the clutch, then slide nice and smooth. no chatter or wheel hop
jodyhudson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 03:25 PM   #11
mekrew
naaaaaw i sayin
 
mekrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Feedback Rating: (4)
Posts: 9,778

Experience: 1-3 months
Trackdays: 10+






Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to mekrew
chuy was showing me down shifting and blipping the gas to try and match the revs , i noticed i wasnt getting chatter in the rear that much
mekrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 03:37 PM   #12
tomLSTD
LSTD Mob Cappo
 
tomLSTD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Feedback Rating: (2)
Posts: 6,798

Experience: 1-3 months
Trackdays: 1






Member Garage





Quote:
Originally Posted by mekrew View Post
chuy was showing me down shifting and blipping the gas to try and match the revs , i noticed i wasnt getting chatter in the rear that much
That's the way we used to do things on the race track before slipper clutches I still do it with my GSXR because I don't want to spend 8 large on a slipper for it, but our endurance bike (80+hp SV) has one, and it's teh sikness!

Once you ride with a slipper clutch, you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.

A good clutch technique is crucial to learn to ride (ie downshifting by matching revs and smooth engagement, etc), but when you get faster, it makes the job of downshifting aggressively soooo easy.
__________________
I am Tyler Durdin's bad attitude.
tomLSTD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 04:19 PM   #13
SCRC John
Why am I not a MH sponsor
 
SCRC John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Magnolia, Tx
Feedback Rating: (5)
Posts: 2,747

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+






Member Garage





The "511" bike had one in it, and it was awesome....I've been shopping all day

John
SCRC John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 04:24 PM   #14
Hades
Underworld
 
Hades's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Feedback Rating: (2)
Posts: 2,061

Experience: 9 years
Trackdays: 2

Bike(s):
**05 Repsol** gone :(
**CBR F4**Sold
**00 R6** Sold
**00 748** Sold
Illegal Senorita

Member Garage





Send a message via MSN to Hades
dont know much about either but I do know that the Aprilla is more expensive
__________________
hades
I WALK WHERE THE DEVIL DANCES

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewRider View Post
I'm some what knowledgeable on PPs
Quote:
Originally Posted by morvegil View Post
i ride around the pole
Hades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2008, 08:09 PM   #15
XRCajun
Cool Senior Member
 
XRCajun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Side
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 1,189

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 5

Bike(s):
2001 Honda XR650R Track Motard (sold), 2006 Honda 919, 2007 Honda CBR600RR(sold)









Quote:
Originally Posted by jodyhudson View Post
they all have that issue 550 & 450. if your smart you'll build a honda. they are bulletproof & fast. ktm's are a definately nice because you dont have to build it. you just buy it and ride it. but you cant beat the speed and reliability of a Honda 450.
Jody is right on here! If you have the ability to do the mods going with a Honda is going to give you most dependability and also the least amount of maintenance. I sure like changing the oil every now and then, checking the tires and riding the heck out of it. It won't make the almost perfect setup of the KTM and Aprillia but heck are you really planning compete in Supermoto? We still don't even have a real SM track around here.
XRCajun is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:41 AM.


MotoHouston.com is not responsible for the content posted by users.
Privacy Policy