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Old 05-28-2008, 12:32 AM   #41
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this thread is hilarious!!!!! to the guy who said the hotter the bottle the better.... wow, you should just..... yeah.... wow
wow you must have never sprayed before..when i first got a nitrous kit for my 68 camaro, i had no bottle warmer and the 250 shot felt like a heated and properly pressured 100 shot.i got a bottle warmer kit and got the pressure up
around 900-1000 psi and the 250 jet was totally different...i suggest you do some research.as a bottle warmer is a must.
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Yeah you know i watch pinks often. When they are rushing to change their bottles out for a run they have a blow torch on the bottle to heat it so they can get max psi out of their bottles. Plus it wont get too hot with him riding and the air going around it. Maybe in bumper to bumper traffic from downtown to katy on I-10 but really where are you going to spray it and why. The only thing I would suggest is only put your bottle on your bike when your really going to use it.
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wow you must have never sprayed before..when i first got a nitrous kit for my 68 camaro, i had no bottle warmer and the 250 shot felt like a heated and properly pressured 100 shot.i got a bottle warmer kit and got the pressure up
around 900-1000 psi and the 250 jet was totally different...i suggest you do some research.as a bottle warmer is a must.
How you going to do that with the first set up he had? I think everyones view is that temperture is not as controled while near or on the exhaust.
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My opinion is good job on doin it your self doesnt look to bad as far as the lines go I have had 2 bikes on N2O and it was a blast but Im glad you decided to move the bottle under the tail because right there above your exaust would only take my a second to jack your bottle from you at least in the tail it will take a little longer


both of my bottles were in stretched bikes and put inside the swing arm up under the tail In front of the Tire and they were about the same size as your bottle
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My opinion is good job on doin it your self doesnt look to bad as far as the lines go I have had 2 bikes on N2O and it was a blast but Im glad you decided to move the bottle under the tail because right there above your exaust would only take my a second to jack your bottle from you at least in the tail it will take a little longer


both of my bottles were in stretched bikes and put inside the swing arm up under the tail In front of the Tire and they were about the same size as your bottle

yes that is the typical location of the bottles on drag bikes with a nos.

who cares, the dude tried to share his install with pics and people just started hating and didn't know much of what to say...if you dont like it...shake your head and close the web browser.
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LOL you been watchin to many movies comfy "want to hit a button" lol the best and safest way to use nitrous (and the way every racer I know uses it) is on a programmed window lets say from 7K to Redline on the rpm's or however you decide to program it that way in every gear as soon as you hit the Rpm the Nitrous kicks and WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE It is a blast
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Even with a window switch you still need a button (momentary switch), WOT switch, or TP sensor for activation - otherwise you end up spraying at part throttle. I prefer to use a button on the street, so I can get in and out of the juice if needed, while staying a full throttle.
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Ya, my bad on forgetting about the syphon tube. Im thinking of the days where bottles were nothing more then modified personal propane tanks.

As for the Nitrous(yes, NOx; x being a replacement integer for 1,2,3,4 whatever the imbalance oxigen molecule would have to be to sustain the representative nitrous atom) being close to the exhaust to improve pressure; get a bottle warmer otherwise your only toasting one side of your marshmellow and I dont see any improvement of paint peel on your bottle's future.

Again, props for your adventure in doing this; I would have kept it complete sleeper cuz in all honestly, and this isn't a knock to what you've done, a 750 or especially 1000 could probably walk you stock.

That all said, have you done some traps with it? Does the system stumble or is it a clean power hit?
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Ya, my bad on forgetting about the syphon tube. Im thinking of the days where bottles were nothing more then modified personal propane tanks.

As for the Nitrous(yes, NOx; x being a replacement integer for 1,2,3,4 whatever the imbalance oxigen molecule would have to be to sustain the representative nitrous atom) being close to the exhaust to improve pressure; get a bottle warmer otherwise your only toasting one side of your marshmellow and I dont see any improvement of paint peel on your bottle's future.

Again, props for your adventure in doing this; I would have kept it complete sleeper cuz in all honestly, and this isn't a knock to what you've done, a 750 or especially 1000 could probably walk you stock.

That all said, have you done some traps with it? Does the system stumble or is it a clean power hit?

on the freeway in the long run yes, but i'd like to see a lowered and strapped down, nitrous gsxr 600 against the same year gsxr 1000 with the same rider skillz...i bet it would be close.
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on the freeway in the long run yes, but i'd like to see a lowered and strapped down, nitrous gsxr 600 against the same year gsxr 1000 with the same rider skillz...i bet it would be close.
True; Im considering the lower gearing of a 600 which would require quicker shifts. If he didn't need to roll off between shifts he may have an advantage but first misshift there may be catastrophy. Does the nitrious need to be disengaged between shifts? Dropping engine rpm and increasing load? Quick shifter?

How many shifts are usually in a quarter stretch for a 600? 3 or 4? Would a sprocket change be feesible to allow one less shift and promote longer gear speed?


The first advantage I see is the 600 isn't gonna want to wheelie off the line as easily as the 1000 etc so 60 ft trap should be good. I imagine if the nitrious kicks and isnt progressive there may be one wheel in the future...

I wanna see a video... now im curious
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Nitrous systems are jetted to work with a specific fuel pressure and nitrous pressure, 900-1000 psi on the nitrous. It is not about keeping the bottle hot or room temp, it is about keeping the bottle pressure right, which means it needs to stay in a set temp range. Bottle heaters have sensors that turn them on and off to maintain the temp. Most are around 90-100 degrees if my memory serves. In Houston most of the year you do not need one, ambient temp is plenty.

Smaller bottles are harder to keep at a constant pressure, but you are spraying a small amount compared to a car. 2 passes on a sneaky pete in a car will equal 5 or 6 on a bike, if not more.

You need a WOT or shifter switch to interupt the spray when you shift, I would say a combination to be safe. Spraying thru the gears will kill the clutch in short order.

If the tune is right you have no need of race gas to spray; off the shelf systems are jetted safe for pump gas. It is only when you start experimenting with jets and or pressures that you run into a fine line.

You also need to the timing a bit if you run much over a 30-50 shot on a bike, or over a 100 shot on a car.

Nitrous is an oxidizer, it supports combustion. It is in a liquid state in the bottle, and releases the oxygen molecules when vented, so you are doing nothing more than adding more air to the motor.

I say good job and good luck on the project. Makes me want to put a kit on the Bandit now...
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bandit with spray, that would be interesting.
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