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Old 05-23-2008, 07:16 PM   #1
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I'm about to change my oil for the first time on my 07 ninja 650 and I was jsut wondering where I should get an oil filter and what kind. The shop where I bought my bike is closed on my days off and when I work it coincides with their opening and closing hours, so my luck isn't too good with them :p So where else should I look to get oil filters and what kind of oil would ya'll recomend, I wil be abt 700 miles when I change it, the dealer said 600, but I drove more this week then I planned and can't do it till sunday.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:20 PM   #3
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I should mention I'm in the katy area and would prefer not to add another 50 miles till I get it done if I don't have to, but I'll keep that in mind.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:45 PM   #4
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Purolator PL 14612 oil filter

Advance auto parts and pep boys has them. One of the best filters you can buy. Run a search on them no complaints.
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wal mart, fram.....

talk all you want, but they have always been very reliable for me.


same with batteries.
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:00 PM   #6
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I mentioned walm-mart and fram and a guy at work, was talking bad abt them, nice to see someone supports them :pand which oil u recomend?
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I mentioned walm-mart and fram and a guy at work, was talking bad abt them, nice to see someone supports them :pand which oil u recomend?
I hear so many diff opinions on this.


I used Motul 5100

But I hear some people SWEAR by rotella.

Ive also known other to use normal 10w30 car oil... to each his own.
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I hear so many diff opinions on this.


I used Motul 5100

But I hear some people SWEAR by rotella.

Ive also known other to use normal 10w30 car oil... to each his own.

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rotella worked great for me in the rc51 but the busa didn't seem to like it. The cam chain works off of oil pressure and it just didn't like it. I had to go to mobile 1 syn. It is happy now. as for fram... not on my bike. not a fine enough filtration. I noticed on the truck i just bought someone put a fram on it. It is coming off tomorrow when I get home from the hospital.
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Too many first hand stories about Fram filters for me, I'll never put another one on any of my bikes.

OEM, K&N or Wix filters only. K&N are easy to find, OEM can be ordered or bought at any dealer, and Wix is sold at many auto parts stores.

Oil- don't sweat the dino vs synth. It's all good, especially if you use motorcycle specific oil.

Personally, on our endurance bike, we use Amsoil and swear by it. Clutch likes it, and every time we've sent it off for analysis, it's been in great shape

On my trackday bike, I use several different brands of motorcycle oil, but stick with synthetic (no real reason). I change it every other track day, and the filter with it. The race bike gets an oil change after every race, like it or not. The 8 hour race showed no issues after analysis with an Amsoil motorcycle oil and Wix filter.
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Or you could buy a Scott's filter and never have to buy another filter for your bike again. Had one on my last bike. Just take it apart and clean it and reinstall.
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Too many first hand stories about Fram filters for me, I'll never put another one on any of my bikes.

OEM, K&N or Wix filters only. K&N are easy to find, OEM can be ordered or bought at any dealer, and Wix is sold at many auto parts stores.

Oil- don't sweat the dino vs synth. It's all good, especially if you use motorcycle specific oil.

Personally, on our endurance bike, we use Amsoil and swear by it. Clutch likes it, and every time we've sent it off for analysis, it's been in great shape

On my trackday bike, I use several different brands of motorcycle oil, but stick with synthetic (no real reason). I change it every other track day, and the filter with it. The race bike gets an oil change after every race, like it or not. The 8 hour race showed no issues after analysis with an Amsoil motorcycle oil and Wix filter.


20 to 30 micron rating for fram filters is not even close to good enough.
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20 to 30 micron rating for fram filters is not even close to good enough.
I personally don't even care about that, it's the "it came apart and ruined my engine" thing that makes it "not good enough" for me!
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I've SEEN a Fram come apart.

K&N is a HiFLo filter w/ the inside dyed red and a nut spot welded on. Also Emgo are good filters. Stay away from anything but OEM or K&N, HiFlo or Emgo IMHO. All great filters and cheap.
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Cycle Gear. It was a lil pricey IMO, but they'll set you up with all the right stuff, especially since this is your first time doing it yourself.
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Never never use a car grade/specific oil unless you run a dry clutch and even then NO
Car oils are not designed to cope with the shearing forces that gearboxes and clutches inflict.
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wheres a documented failure of a m/c engine because of using non detergent car oil? Not being an , but I've heard about the shearing force theory but would like to see where someones bike actually f'd up by using car oil. With all the m/c forums on the web I'm sure there has to be one documented case with pics if it has ever happened.
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