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Old 05-22-2008, 02:46 PM   #21
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At the 03/08 Noob Trackday with LMS, Buck Beasely and Larry Meyers (I think), were demonstrating the proper technique for hanging off the bike when taking a turn. Larry specifically demonstrated to drop the outside elbow and relax that arm. Thus my question, since they were demonstrating on a trackbike, the proper technique for a road course.
It should be the same track or street.

Are you sure they weren't talking about the inside elbow? The inside arm should be loose (well not loose but pretty close) in the corner so that the front can function proper. I think what is being said about attacking the turn w/ elbows out is to help steer into the corner faster. Your elbows out gives you more leverage to steer the bike. With your inside elbow out upon corner entry, its easier to counter steer the bike on its side faster. Once your in the turn, its important to keep the weight off the inside bar because you can lose the front if you have too much weight there. Its impossible to put pressure on the outside bar and still make the turn due to gyroscopic forces. Pressuring the outside bar will make the bike stand up.

Yes your outside arm should be relaxed in the turn. If you keep the outside elbow out it will help give you leverage to stand the bike up on corner exit.

Look at Ben Spies form. He rides with both elbows out the whole time. I'm nobody to say he's doing it wrong but I bet he is very little weight on the bars mid-corner, regardless.

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i was always taught elbows up in motocross and elbows in and relaxed on sportbikes
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:40 PM   #23
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Hows about not thinking about it and just ride faster.
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Hows about not thinking about it and just ride faster.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:03 PM   #25
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besides reaching for the ground....i dont' even know what my elbows are doing when i'm riding. :dontknow:

whichever gets you around the corner faster is the way to do it.
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:34 AM   #26
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besides reaching for the ground....i dont' even know what my elbows are doing when i'm riding. :dontknow:

whichever gets you around the corner faster is the way to do it.
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Technically speaking, Ben Spies doesn't have text book body positioning, but last time I checked he seems to get around the track at a decent pace...
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Technically speaking, Ben Spies doesn't have text book body positioning, but last time I checked he seems to get around the track at a decent pace...
Not many pro racers DO have textbook body positioning. , look at Duhamel and Bayliss- they almost look crossed up on their bikes.

As Keith and Jody so eloquently put things, what is important is how you feel while riding and comfort vs speed. I have no idea what my body is doing when I'm riding either, and certainly don't think about it. The only time I think about where my body is very much is when my knee touches pavement and I think about where I am in the corner/ speed/ other riders in the corner/ etc- that lasts about a 1/2 fraction of a second or less.

Regarding arm positioning, I usually give students a basis to start out with on position, but emphasize that they should do what is comfortable. That usually translates to loosening the grip on the bars too among other things.
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:07 PM   #28
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But seriously, thats the face I have when I think I'm coming into a corner to hot.

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