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Old 05-16-2008, 04:41 PM   #61
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if your gonna brake mid corner, why the would you only use the front? if you think about it that WOULD upset the suspension since the front is loading up anyway, if you apply slight amount of rear brake with it both shocks would compress the same amount and there wouldnt be a shift of weight all to the front tire, (thoughts on this? this is just my theory)
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:45 PM   #62
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if your gonna brake mid corner, why the would you only use the front? if you think about it that WOULD upset the suspension since the front is loading up anyway, if you apply slight amount of rear brake with it both shocks would compress the same amount and there wouldnt be a shift of weight all to the front tire, (thoughts on this? this is just my theory)
we think your full of . and besides by usung the front brake your compressing the forks more which makes the wheelbase shorter which allows the bike to carve the corner better

with an avatar like yours i doubt anyone is gonna listen to your terrorist

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we think your full of . and besides by using the front brake your compressing the forks more which makes the wheelbase shorter which allows the bike to carve the corner better

with an avatar like yours i doubt anyone is gonna listen to your terrorist

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we think your full of . and besides by usung the front brake your compressing the forks more which makes the wheelbase shorter which allows the bike to carve the corner better

with an avatar like yours i doubt anyone is gonna listen to your terrorist

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we think your full of . and besides by usung the front brake your compressing the forks more which makes the wheelbase shorter which allows the bike to carve the corner better

with an avatar like yours i doubt anyone is gonna listen to your terrorist

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we think your full of . and besides by usung the front brake your compressing the forks more which makes the wheelbase shorter which allows the bike to carve the corner better

with an avatar like yours i doubt anyone is gonna listen to your terrorist

lol thanks for chiming in, remember 2 things. First, this terrorist is a few laps ahead of you when we hit the parties, even though your the mr. badass topgun of cmra

numero dos - using front brake only mid corner is putting extra load on the front end when your already leaned over all the way, the rear brake would distribute the weight front to back evenly keeping the bike planted.

so stfu anyway which your little baby class toddler trophy . Man up and jump in big bike class . BTW maverick i still have all your gear here and your suit is ready drop by and pick this up
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:25 PM   #69
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Slowing down puts more weight on the front, even if you're just using the rear brake. Just letting off the throttle quickly puts weight on the front. You're never going to have an even weight distribution on the brakes, unless you brake like a *****

The main reason not to use the rear (IMO) is that it's a LOT more prone to lock and a LOT less powerful. And trailing it into right hand corners would get ugly. You can go fast without it (Schwantz--"Used it twice in GP. Crashed twice."). Basically it's your choice to make, some really fast people do use it, some don't. Personally you couldn't pay me enough to try to trail the rear brake into a fast corner. Using it upright I'd consider, but still more trouble than it's worth IMHO. Probably most useful at high speeds, and I don't have that issue on an SV.

I used to cover the front at all times when I rode on the street, at the track I prefer to put all fingers back on the throttle when I'm done braking, I'm smoother that way.
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we think your full of . and besides by usung the front brake your compressing the forks more which makes the wheelbase shorter which allows the bike to carve the corner better

with an avatar like yours i doubt anyone is gonna listen to your terrorist

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lol thanks for chiming in, remember 2 things. First, this terrorist is a few laps ahead of you when we hit the parties, even though your the mr. badass topgun of cmra

numero dos - using front brake only mid corner is putting extra load on the front end when your already leaned over all the way, the rear brake would distribute the weight front to back evenly keeping the bike planted.

so stfu anyway which your little baby class toddler trophy . Man up and jump in big bike class . BTW maverick i still have all your gear here and your suit is ready drop by and pick this up
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F... Jody and his militant azz opinions..... as for the rest of you so called "racers" they are all doing it WRONG.

All this talk about covering brakes... bla bla bla Brakes just make you SLOW down. Take em off, get rid of em all together.

If you’re not using "the Jedi force" to get around the track than you are ALL wrong.

, I close my eyes and rarely drop the second hand onto the bars. It's more thrilling that way, kinda like riding a bull. You don't get mad skills like that in any classroom.

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F... Jody and his militant azz opinions..... as for the rest of you so called "racers" they are all doing it WRONG.

All this talk about covering brakes... bla bla bla Brakes just make you SLOW down. Take em off, get rid of em all together.

If you’re not using "the Jedi force" to get around the track than you are ALL wrong.

, I close my eyes and rarely drop the second hand onto the bars. It's more thrilling that way, kinda like riding a bull. You don't get mad skills like that in any classroom.

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ya, you may be fast on the flat surfaces. Heads up, same bike. You give me a downhill and a tailwind and I will smoke you any day.
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ok, so I'm getting that you really never use the rear brake on the track (I haven't riden the track yet)
for some reason, when braking into a turn I always let off the front brake as I lean over and ease the rear brake if I need to slow down more. I kinda transition from front brake to rear brake and then get on the gas.
is this wrong?
I guess I'm a little gun shy on the street as I have had the front come out from under neither me twice due to front braking mid turn and there being dirt or gravel on the road.
so next month when I do my first track day I shouldn't worry about using the rear brake at all?
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I gotta have my brakes. I tried it without it at TWS (Texas World Speedway) this past Sat. and it felt weird and lost. Almost hit someone in t10 because he slowed down lucky for me for covering the brake.
No doubt I was following some dude in the bus stop at houston and he stopped mid corner too. I hit the brakes pretty hard and only stood up just a little and it still didn't wash the front.
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ok, so I'm getting that you really never use the rear brake on the track (I haven't riden the track yet)
for some reason, when braking into a turn I always let off the front brake as I lean over and ease the rear brake if I need to slow down more. I kinda transition from front brake to rear brake and then get on the gas.
is this wrong?
I guess I'm a little gun shy on the street as I have had the front come out from under neither me twice due to front braking mid turn and there being dirt or gravel on the road.
so next month when I do my first track day I shouldn't worry about using the rear brake at all?
I never use the rear brake on the track. With that said, trail braking not only puts more demand on the front tire, it also puts more demand on your suspension.

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