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Old 05-10-2008, 04:14 PM   #1
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Question bike wont start, help!

I have a problem with my bike. Last thursday I rode my back to school and then went to cruise a little. I didn't experience any problems with it. Then yesterday I started it as I prepared to ride to work, but it didn't start. The gauge didn't come on so immediately assumed it must have been a battery issue. Therefore, i removed the battery, charged it, and put it back this morning.
The gauge and gauge lights now come on but they start to flash intermittently as soon I switch the kill switch from the off to the on position. I thought the terminals were loose but they are perfectly fine. the engine won't even crank when I put the key in the on position. any ideas regarding what the issue might be? As I said before, the bike was running perfectly fine until I tried to start it yesterday afternoon.
I've seen a couple of posts that might relate to the issue I am now experiencing with my bike, unfortunately, the persons who started the threads haven posted back how they fixed the problem.
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Old 05-10-2008, 05:44 PM   #2
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checked it, it is properly charged. I also checked the ignition switch but it doesn't seem to be burned or have any loose wire.
engine does crank now, but lights wont come on.
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when I hit the start button I can hear the relays in the junction box click... continuously, until I turn it off.
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Do you hear the fuel pump come on and cycle?
Have you checked all of your fuses?
Check to make sure your battery terminals are tight and not corroded.
If you don't get it figured out this weekend, give me a call Tuesday and I'll walk you through a few things.
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:33 PM   #6
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the fuel pump does engage, checked the fuses[the one under the passenger seat] and they aren't burnt. When I hit the ignition button something under the tank seems to engage and click, sometimes the clicking wont stop until I switch the key to the off position.
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I was suggested by a friend that my problem might be related to the ECU fuse being faulty. does anybody know where exactly this is located in a zx6r?
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The ECU fuse is right there, next to the other fuses in your tail section.
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is there any main fuse concealed somewhere?
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Have the battery tested first. It's (usually) free and easy. Even if the charger indicates that the battery is charged, it could be dead. Have the battery load tested at an automotive store.

That click is a typical sound you get from a relay when there isn't enough juice to power whatever the relay is connected to. You flip a switch, there's just enough juice to engage the relay and then the voltage level drops and the relay clicks back off since there is not enough juice to keep it engaged.

I have had batteries that I thought were good die on me suddenly three times since I've moved to Houston. Each time it was the same. The car had been starting and driving fine then I get somewhere and it refuses to start. All three times, the batteries failed a load test at the parts store and a new one fixed the issue.
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Agreed with the above.

Easiest way to check the SOC of a battery without equipment-

If you hit the start button and the lights dim, all the static charge of the battery is being forced to the starter which doesn't spin the clutch. Put a set of jumper cables on the bike to a car THAT IS NOT RUNNING and start it again. If it starts, your battery is bad. Remove the cables, and if it continues to run for a while your stator is fine, just a battery that cannot hold a charge, only static.

Let us know what you find out... If you're not hearing it crank, either a GiPro, voltage or a kill switch(deadman, clutch or kickstand) is in wrong position.
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This is for an 05... even though you have an immobilizer, key antennae etc, follow the wires, direct wire from ignition to relay, then to starter. The control side of the relay can be traced too.
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It has a main fuse, it's right by the starter relay, but if it was blown nothing would come on.
If you get a chance bring the battery by Tuesday and we'll load test it, no charge.

Also check the 4 prong red plug that goes into the starter relay for corrosion.
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I took the battery to Autozone to test it and it has good charge[12.5 volt], I'm taking the tank off right now in order to check the connections.
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UPDATE:

I have removed the tank and looked for faulty connections but I found none. I decided to jump start the battery using one of those boxes sold at autozone. The bike does sputter now like it wants to start but it has no fuel supply since I removed the tank. this proves that it is nothing related to the ignition. does that mean the battery is just faulty? as I said before, the charge meter shows it has 12.5 v.
I'll connect the tank back a see what happens.
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it started now, but it won't keep running if I unplug the jump starter.
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Possibly Stator or Rectifier...Did you check the wiring harness on the rectifier make sure all the connections are good?
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Possibly Stator or Rectifier...Did you check the wiring harness on the rectifier make sure all the connections are good?
Agreed rectifier is an easy fix however the stator is a bit more complicated.
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