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Old 05-04-2008, 10:22 AM   #1
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I have a new respect for Dani Pederosa, I didn't really respect his talent or resolve until this race.

Bummer for CEII and Nicky- those guys just can't keep the pace it seems.

It seems that once again, it was hard to focus on the race leaders AND watch the mid-pack folks. Good racing all around!

I hope this is the beginning of Rossi's return for a championship.
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:51 AM   #2
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Yeah, I was really bummed for CEII and Nicky. Nicky got a great start, but just went backwards Surely, they can't be the only ones whose bikes feel a bit off at the start? :dontknow: The other guys seem to find a way to ride around it. I guess that's the difference between the good ones and great ones. :dontknow:


Ant West cracks me up. He's back to his old 250 mad as days, only now he's just giving the silent treatment because he can't blame anybody but himself.

I'm mad that I fell asleep about half distance and woke up on the cool off lap.
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On a more positive note. I got the top 3 spots right for motomunky!

Gotta run the scoring now.
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On a more positive note. I got the top 3 spots right for motomunky!

Gotta run the scoring now.
You Sir, can eat a _____.

I got the winner, but I missed almost every spot from there on- almost all of them by just 1!

I was cracked up by Ant too.

I disagree about your assessment and the riders being able to "ride through" issues as "good" and "great". I'm thinking that the other riders weren't having the issues like Colin was having and Nicky- or maybe they were just having their issues at different parts of the race (evidenced by Nicky moving up through the field late in the race).

Remember too that a lap time difference of 0.10 second per lap will make a rider fall back in the field quite a bit...

Not making excuses, just sayin'.
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You Sir, can eat a _____.

I got the winner, but I missed almost every spot from there on- almost all of them by just 1!

I was cracked up by Ant too.




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I disagree about your assessment and the riders being able to "ride through" issues as "good" and "great". I'm thinking that the other riders weren't having the issues like Colin was having and Nicky- or maybe they were just having their issues at different parts of the race (evidenced by Nicky moving up through the field late in the race).

Remember too that a lap time difference of 0.10 second per lap will make a rider fall back in the field quite a bit...

Not making excuses, just sayin'.
Yeah, it's just seems like they are consistently 'off' on raceday now, and last year. I don't know... it's probably just my frustration talking. lol
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I expected more from Stoner.

He's still having problems, despite the podium.

But I'm glad to see Rossi back ontop. It's been a little to long....

Props to Lorenzo for riding through that wicked high side, and pulling out a 4th place finish.

To bad Colin didn't hang in there longer. I had high hopes for the local guy....

But seriously, it's good to see Rossi's set-up/tires are finally coming together. It was a sight for sore Rossi fan eyes to see him drop the hammer the entire race, like the good ole days.

Honestly though, I wouldn't have minded a little more back and forth between him and Pedrosa.....

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Dani hung in there with Rossi. I just knew Rossi was going to fall to 2nd when I saw that 0.3 gap. I can't think how many times Rossi has been this close and it come apart to either Stoner or Dani.
This time, it didn't happen! Rossi put the hammer down and everything held. Dani said after the race, " I knew I wasn't going to catch him so I just saved the bike!"

Very cool statement in my book!
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twas nice to see Vale on top again!!
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Great for Rossi, stoners needs to calm down, lorenzo pushing the bike in the warm up lap with broken ankle, dani great. somewhat good race,
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I think Rossi now has the confidence he has lacked. This will probably be the first of many. Rossi now knows that the tire will be there, even at the end of the race. He set his fastest time on the 21st lap.....

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I picked the winner and 3rd. My 2nd and 4th places were swapped from the actual finish. I didn't see that Lorenzo had issues in practice since I was out of town. Ah well.
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I have a new respect for Dani Pederosa, I didn't really respect his talent or resolve until this race.

Well said Tom, I think he made some new fans with that display

Intresting how he chose a lot of the time NOT to sit in Rossi's slipstream down that long straight!!!!!!!!!

CE was caught out by the tailwind that was pushing the top speeds up and causing one or two of them to run too deep into the turn!!!
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Well said Tom, I think he made some new fans with that display

Intresting how he chose a lot of the time NOT to sit in Rossi's slipstream down that long straight!!!!!!!!!

CE was caught out by the tailwind that was pushing the top speeds up and causing one or two of them to run too deep into the turn!!!
i was wondering that myself. he was all over the place behind rossi.....i think he was just tryin to show rossi that he was right behind him and try to force rossi to push beyond his limits. well, rossi pushed, but held strong.

i still think pedrosa is takin the #1 plate this year.
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i was wondering that myself. he was all over the place behind rossi.....i think he was just tryin to show rossi that he was right behind him and try to force rossi to push beyond his limits. well, rossi pushed, but held strong.

i still think pedrosa is takin the #1 plate this year.
Agreed.

But I think the reason he choose not to slide into the slip stream would be because of the nature of that section. Could you imagine coming into that corner at the end of the straight too hot? That is one tiiiiiiiiight corner, where braking coming off that loooooong straight at top speeds is crucial! If he slip streamed it down that straight, he would have to come into that corner HARD on the breaks (which given how tight that corner was, could cause some serious mistakes), or start braking sooner, allowing Rossi to return the favor and pass him into the corner. Sitting here at work, I can't remember if he was ever close enough to make a difference in the slip stream anyways, but I might be wrong. Also, notice how Rossi was taking the inside on the straight away, and then throwing the bike to outside to set up for the corner. I would assume he was doing this to keep Pedrosa from wanting to get behind him. Which in turn, would probably make Pedrosa guess when Rossi was going to jump to the outside, which would more then likely screw him all up. But that's my theory......

Of course, then again I'm not Pedrosa or Rossi, so I don't know what they were thinking.

But no doubt Pedrosa rode strong. I felt he could have given Rossi a go at the end if he wanted to, but he was wise for backing off and securing 20 points.

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Apparantly the steel spring Honda engine was running at close to max tested/permitted rpm at this circuit and the combination of drafting Rossi and the tailwind was taking the engine into "detonation" territory so Pedrosa wisely chose to stay in the clean air!!!!
Bear in mind that could be Honda speak for, they have an overheating problem!!!!
Beats me how HRC still don't have a pneumatic valve engine in their bike.
With their budget, R&D and access to Honda F1 pneumatic valve engine technology, I thought they would have been the first!!

Great to see the Doctor back up on that top step and able to run at the front for full race distance
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Apparantly the steel spring Honda engine was running at close to max tested/permitted rpm at this circuit and the combination of drafting Rossi and the tailwind was taking the engine into "detonation" territory so Pedrosa wisely chose to stay in the clean air!!!!
Bear in mind that could be Honda speak for, they have an overheating problem!!!!
Beats me how HRC still don't have a pneumatic valve engine in their bike.
With their budget, R&D and access to Honda F1 pneumatic valve engine technology, I thought they would have been the first!!

Great to see the Doctor back up on that top step and able to run at the front for full race distance
Sounds like a good reason to stay out of the slip stream to me.

It is strange they haven't dropped a pneumatic valve motor in it yet.

Get with the program Honda......sheesh!

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