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Old 05-04-2008, 01:47 AM   #21
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all i was sayin is its like we are targets to the cages, and we need to find a way to even the odds, not that " caryin a gun is the only means", just that when you use a 3000 lb car as a projectile, how else are you to protect yourself. the streets are flooded today with more and more ignorant drivers, and riders, and someone needs to stand up and speak out, cause in reality, we have no other option to even the odds. not that im a radical gun totin thug, just i refuse to relinquish my rights to use the same roadways as the cages, i pay taxes too and there needs to be some sort of organization to bring these issues to the publics view. sorry for gettin agitated, its just im tired of hearin about more and more of these each day, it seems like it is gettin to be a more frequent occurrence, and if it isnt stopped, there will be none of us to say anything. so sheep, keep followin the heard, as for me, its life or death out there, and i chose life, im not a fair weather rider and i dont have a bike cause its cool, its a way of life and i refuse to change for anyone. and this is about the rider, and all the rest of us still on the streets. what affects one, affects all. he was up and talkin to the cop, but like in my situation, the cop was probably just checkin to see if he could write any tickets to fill his quota. i was just usin this as a jump off to get others opinion and now i see
so because of this youre just gonna go'a'blazin, huh?
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:50 AM   #22
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keep ridin the wagon, im out. daum sheep
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:51 AM   #23
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i dont even own a gun, just makin a point that we are the victims and someone needs to speak out, but whatever
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guns will solve nothing, you are pitting yourself (500#) against a car/truck at 3000+#. you ARE going to lose everytime.

like tony said, awareness is your best friend on the roadways.
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fact is that over 90% of accidents involving motorcyclists is due to rider error--its the riders fault. ill take out a mirror or two if a cage acts a fool, but a gun is never the answer. you shoot a moving cage, you are putting EVERYONE within half a mile (or more) in mortal danger. would you feel good about killing a child walking on a side walk? at least you taught that cager a lesson, right?
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i think he was just using the gun thing as a extended metaphor. he knows not to use a gun in anger.
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i have an extended cab tundra not a small truck and some tard in a civic tried to bully me today at the scene of a wreck I was a fire fighter and an emt way to long for you to bogart me from stoping at a wreck the way people act around bikes burn me thay think that thares a protective bubble around bikes a gun might not be a good idea but something does need to be done about the bias police and public have about not sticking up for the bikers
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i have an extended cab tundra not a small truck and some tard in a civic tried to bully me today at the scene of a wreck I was a fire fighter and an emt way to long for you to bogart me from stoping at a wreck the way people act around bikes burn me thay think that thares a protective bubble around bikes a gun might not be a good idea but something does need to be done about the bias police and public have about not sticking up for the bikers
im not arguing that we get the short end of the stick most of the time. but as one person said, its just part of the game.
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o totally agree but that dosent go to say that someone cant shoot a letter (figure of speach) up the ranks and maybe get more than a 30 second clip in drivers ed on driving around bikes maybe teach the younger kids more on driving safely when i was younger i thought the road was my race track truth is it gets people killed every day cars and bikes
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o totally agree but that dosent go to say that someone cant shoot a letter (figure of speach) up the ranks and maybe get more than a 30 second clip in drivers ed on driving around bikes maybe teach the younger kids more on driving safely when i was younger i thought the road was my race track truth is it gets people killed every day cars and bikes
letters have been sent, congressman have been contacted, etc...honestly i dont anything will ever change. jmo.
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Wow this thread got out of hand.
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just do a wheelie, cagers will see you then
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My question is how you get a report second hand that a bike is down and jump to the conclusion a cage ran him over.

Like was said, 90% of the time it was the bikes fault, but it is easier to put the blame on the cages then take a hard look at our riding habits.

And if you haven't figured out that most car and truck drivers don't even see bikes, you don't need to be riding on the street.
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i was just reporting another down rider. i kno you cant put much more together than a fiew words to make a sentence, but seriously, you have a head on your shoulders that if you keep fukin wit me, its gonna get squashed, i assure you of that. you have all these smart a$& lil comments, nm, you aint even worth the time
chill out noob, try to remember, your not half as bad as your fingers think you are.
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:24 AM   #35
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i think he was just using the gun thing as a extended metaphor. he knows not to use a gun in anger.
you are the only one that got me bro, thanks
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chill out noob, try to remember, your not half as bad as your fingers think you are.
and a noob im not, maby to mh, ive been ridin for over 20 yrs, and on the road for over 10
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its about awareness, but its hard to get the message across when everyone is oblivious
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its about awareness, but its hard to get the message across when everyone is oblivious

.... and even harder when the message is typed in some other language that nobody understands!!
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and a noob im not, maby to mh, ive been ridin for over 20 yrs, and on the road for over 10
its good you have riding experience, I was referring to MH and your E-thuggery.
Its all good and I got what you were trying to say even though it was jumbled and written in the style of romper room .
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keep yer pistol holstered Tex and keep yer' head on a swivel at all times. thats how I roll.
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i speak in riddles at times, you have to read between the lines. i like to see what others do who dont take in all the info before jumpin to conclusions, showed me alot. i guess you can say it weeded out alot of the bs. but anyway, ive noticed local riders, just like this site, are more of followers, and no one really stands up and takes charge. thats wherein the delimma lies, everyone is quick to jump on the wagon and trash someone, than to speak out and get to the bottom of the situation. i kno at times i can be a lil extreme, but i have found that to make changes, sometimes you have to step out of the box to get peoples attention. this really has become ridiculous, when i wrote this, i did write it in anger for the simple reason that i had just read about multiple other riders down in one day, then i get a phone call. the reason we keep finding ourselves in this situation is cause its easier to to follow the heard, but isnt that what lead to the extinction of the dinosaurs.
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