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Old 05-02-2008, 12:45 PM   #1
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Opinion: What's the best "First Track Day" track?

Ok so I've already corner worked one day and I'm corner working again next weekend (5/10 @ TWS (Texas World Speedway) for LSTD), and I've got just about everything I need to do my first track day.

That being said, what is the "best" track for a first timer?
Now chancer are TWS (Texas World Speedway) will be my first, as that what will fit my schedule best, and it seem pretty wide and friendly.
But what do you guys think?
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:51 PM   #2
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Ok so I've already corner worked one day and I'm corner working again next weekend (5/10 @ TWS (Texas World Speedway) for LSTD), and I've got just about everything I need to do my first track day.

That being said, what is the "best" track for a first timer?
Now chancer are TWS (Texas World Speedway) will be my first, as that what will fit my schedule best, and it seem pretty wide and friendly.
But what do you guys think?
Lots of guys lost their cherry at that track! TWS (Texas World Speedway) is a great track! But any of the tracks in Texas would be a great one to start on. Some of the more technical tracks may prove to be a bit more challenging for the noob though. MSRH is a great track, where you can see through all of the corners because it is flat, as well as GSS.

You'll do fine wherever you go, as LSTD, TTD, and LMS all have great instructors and won't let you get out of control!
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I started on GSS on my first one. woot woot
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My personal favorite is TWS (Texas World Speedway).
It's where I had my first race at, back then we didn't have "track days",
You took your school on Saturday, had a practice on Sunday and then raced.
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My personal favorite is TWS (Texas World Speedway).
It's where I had my first race at, back then we didn't have "track days",
You took your school on Saturday, had a practice on Sunday and then raced.
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MSRH is the only place I've been to, so I really don't have an objective view on this topic ... that being said ... MSRH going clockwise has a real nice flow to it.
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My first trackday was at TWS (Texas World Speedway)....in the rain no less. Still had a blast. My first race was at Oakhill Raceway though. You'll be fine at TWS (Texas World Speedway), the speeds are higher for sure, but it is a easy track to figure a decent line around.

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TWS (Texas World Speedway) is my 2nd favorite other than the new cresson track. TWS (Texas World Speedway) would be your best pick for the first time. most other tracks are tighter and more technical. you know you wanna go fast and you'll be able to that at TWS (Texas World Speedway).
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all you guys raving about TWS (Texas World Speedway).....in my opinion is a bad choice for a first time out. (TWS (Texas World Speedway) was my cherry popper as well)

being a first timer at TWS (Texas World Speedway), it allows you to ride with bad body position, coasting through a lot of the turns, run wide, etc.. mistakes at TWS (Texas World Speedway) hurt a lot more too.....what's the average speed of turns at TWS (Texas World Speedway)...70mph+ (besides the horseshoe)?

my first trackday at TWS (Texas World Speedway) was fun, don't get me wrong, but after going to MSRH and doing a few trackdays there...i got 3x faster when i went back to TWS (Texas World Speedway).

going to a tighter track like MSRH or GSS is probably the better suiting tracks for a first timer. after you work on the fundamentals of track riding....THEN go to TWS (Texas World Speedway) and tear it up!
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For me it was TWS (Texas World Speedway), i felt more comfortable riding it than MSRH or MSRC. Sorry those are the only ones i've been.

Tony said a good point, you get better riding at the MSRH but you will me more confortable at TWS (Texas World Speedway).

So my fist choice will be TWS (Texas World Speedway).

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Well TWS (Texas World Speedway) will most likely be my first track day. and I'd like to get in at least 2 more other than that before the end of the year, and I'd like to do a different one each time.
One of the days I'd like to hit is that Buell inside pass or whatever, I think its at Eagles Canyon this year. I would also really like to do Cresson as I've heard lots of great stuff about it, my question on that one would be, would I have more fun there if I was a little more "proficient", or would it being only my 2nd or 3rd track day be just as fun.
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TWS (Texas World Speedway) seems to be a larger layout for the first trackday.
Run-Off Room is ample and there are a few of each elememnt.

NOTHING Like Cresson 3.1 but fun non the less
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Run-Off Room is ample and there are a few of each elememnt.

NOTHING Like Cresson 3.1 but fun non the less
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Straight up, my first "track day" was licensing school at Oak Hill and raced the next day. Like Patrick, there were no track days then.

Here's my $.02: the track really doesn't matter. If I were to choose one, it would probably be TWS (Texas World Speedway) or Cresson- mostly Cresson. The tight, technical tracks are great teaching tools, but I think better suited for folks that are more acclimated to a wider, less technical track. I think the tighter/ technical tracks can actually spook a newer rider to some degree due to the higher potential to miss a turn, while the bigger tracks (like TWS (Texas World Speedway)) may intimidate the new rider with the speeds- each has it's own unique "personality" and "issues". The important thing is to check your ego, listen as much as you can, study riding/ racing books (like Twist of the Wrist 1 and 2), and go in with an open learning attitude.

Honestly, I really don't think it will matter where you do your first one, I would only encourage you to get instruction and do some heavy-duty listening and try to apply the curriculum.

If I were to do it all over again and had the choice? It would be Cresson, with TWS (Texas World Speedway) in close second, GSS and the Mercedes Benz tracks are pretty much the same to me (tight, flat, technical) so they are a toss-up, the Oak Hill.
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Straight up, my first "track day" was licensing school at Oak Hill and raced the next day. Like Patrick, there were no track days then.

Here's my $.02: the track really doesn't matter. If I were to choose one, it would probably be TWS (Texas World Speedway) or Cresson- mostly Cresson. The tight, technical tracks are great teaching tools, but I think better suited for folks that are more acclimated to a wider, less technical track. I think the tighter/ technical tracks can actually spook a newer rider to some degree due to the higher potential to miss a turn, while the bigger tracks (like TWS (Texas World Speedway)) may intimidate the new rider with the speeds- each has it's own unique "personality" and "issues". The important thing is to check your ego, listen as much as you can, study riding/ racing books (like Twist of the Wrist 1 and 2), and go in with an open learning attitude.

Honestly, I really don't think it will matter where you do your first one, I would only encourage you to get instruction and do some heavy-duty listening and try to apply the curriculum.

If I were to do it all over again and had the choice? It would be Cresson, with TWS (Texas World Speedway) in close second, GSS and the Mercedes Benz tracks are pretty much the same to me (tight, flat, technical) so they are a toss-up, the Oak Hill.
I, myself, enjoy the speed and am indeed very comfortable with it. The technicality of a track does keep me concerned.
I have CW'd Cresson, TWS (Texas World Speedway) and MSRH. On 2 occasions I have been the only one on the track at MSRH and even then I felt pressured by the technicality of the turns. I know the whole time I would be on the track @ MSRH would be tense, I am ok with it but it will show in my performance.
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It depends on the rider. Here's an excerpt from one of my email responses:
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If you are the type of rider who HAS to go as fast as whenever possible then TWS (Texas World Speedway) may not be the best choice for you. The long straights can get you into trouble before you know it.
If you're an overly tense rider who is nervous or unsteady on a bike then you might not want the Motorsport Ranch to be your first track experience.

The venue is truly secondary, those that choose to partake of the LSTD school are introduced to the track in a controlled, planned manner so that rarely are they unprepared or overwhelmed. After just one highly informative curriculum packed day everyone leaves a much better rider than they were when they arrived!!
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