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Old 05-01-2008, 04:55 PM   #41
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Its called presenting arguments and counter arguments. dont be so naive into thinking there is some huge brainwash job going on here. you state your argument. i state my counter. back and forth. how it works bro.
but there is nothing to argue about you posted your opinion i said mine and then you bring up the culture thing so i tell you about my culture and how i feel about riding and then you blatenly attack my beliefs and and tell me that i am foolish lol it is all funny


oh well lol this is a really bad topic because not any 2 people will agree on the exact same thing in here
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my mom, grandparents, and a few others have asked me to stop riding numerous amount of times.

even in my culture, family is everything, and always stay close.

but i have to agree with pyschoninja....to some, riding is a part of life. i CAN function without riding just like i CAN function without family....but do i want to leave one without the other? no. i like to get my piece of pie and eat it too. my family has accepted my need for speed on two wheels. even though they prefer me not to, they support me everytime they see me loadin the bike in the trailer.
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LOOK THERE YOU GO AGAIN TRYING TO PUSH YOUR OPINIONS ON OTHER PEOPLE WHAT YOU THINK IS FULLISH OTHERS WILL NOT WHAT YOU THINK IS ONE THING OTHERS WILL THINK ANOTHER I MEAN HONESTLY ARE YOU RETARDED? WHAT KIND OF WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN WHERE YOU CAN THINK FOR EVERYONE?


it is called an opinion you can have yorus stop trying to push it on my im not pushing it on you like i said in the last post just look at someone elses view point you dont have to agree with it that is why it is an opinion but stop be a and trying to say everyone is wrong and you are right because you are only right to you


riding is not transportation to me nor is it a hobby but it is a passion (do you know what a passion is ?)

like in the japanese and other asian cultures they have zen gardens and bonzia trees and such but that is not a hobby to them that is there passion and became art of there culture just like riding bikes is my passion and is part of my culture as well
Learn how to use some punctuations. (or is that pushing my opinion on you?) I cant push my OPINION on you. look up the meaning of the word.

no, I dont know the meaning of passion. Can you please push your opinion, I mean explain it to me.

shows you how little you know about culture. it is a hobby just like any other. fail to see how it falls under a passion.
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but there is nothing to argue about you posted your opinion i said mine and then you bring up the culture thing so i tell you about my culture and how i feel about riding and then you blatenly attack my beliefs and and tell me that i am foolish lol it is all funny


oh well lol this is a really bad topic because not any 2 people will agree on the exact same thing in here
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my mom, grandparents, and a few others have asked me to stop riding numerous amount of times.

even in my culture, family is everything, and always stay close.

but i have to agree with pyschoninja....to some, riding is a part of life. i CAN function without riding just like i CAN function without family....but do i want to leave one without the other? no. i like to get my piece of pie and eat it too. my family has accepted my need for speed on two wheels. even though they prefer me not to, they support me everytime they see me loadin the bike in the trailer.
again you are stating your value system which is fine. no 2 are alike. but making any transportation or a sport into a passion is glorifying it a bit dont you think?

lord forbid it does not happen but what if some excruciating circumstance makes you unable to ride? what will happen?

but then again that can be said about family also.
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Sounds like they are implying that he's playing Russian roulette by riding.

I understand the cultural thing, but it sounds like they aren't respecting him by acknowledging that he's an adult and can make competent decisions about his own safety.

I don't believe that riding a motorcycle is courting death every time you go out. To me, it would be the same as asking someone not to get on a plane because it could crash, or to not walk across a street because you could get hit by a car.

If he rides responsibly and carefully, he will most likely be fine. If he has an accident, then it's just that, an accident. He could have a fatal accident walking up some stairs, should he avoid those all summer too?

Take all reasonable precautions and then go enjoy life, it's too short to avoid doing things just because something *might* happen.

FWIW, I would choose my wife and kids over my bike, but I refuse to live my life in fear.
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i understand sometimes accidents are inevitable...but when u do ride, just be extra careful, and do go on any challenging ride for the time being...
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Learn how to use some punctuations. (or is that pushing my opinion on you?) I cant push my OPINION on you. look up the meaning of the word.

no, I dont know the meaning of passion. Can you please push your opinion, I mean explain it to me.

shows you how little you know about culture. it is a hobby just like any other. fail to see how it falls under a passion.
you fail to see how it falls under passion i tell you what go to japan and just walk up and rip someone bonsai tree up and throw it on the ground and see what happens

your an idiot I have family that lives in Japan and honestly who are you to even talk about riding? as far as i know not on person on here has ever seen one of your bikes or antying that you say your have shut the F up with your BS dude im gonna tell you straight up dont ever say anything to disrespect my culture ever again


or better yet come to a meet sometime and we can discuss our cultures and beliefs in person because no i dont use puntuation and i dont care to and guess what i dont give a

me and Tony (houseofpain) are on the same thing my family does not like that i ride they have been with me in the hospital but they know it is my passion and part of my ife and they respect that just like tony's family respects it for him


but you wouldnt know anything about it you would have to learn how to really ride first
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and im a fire fighter even when there are not people inside I want to go in adn when im told it is to bad lets just put the ladder ruck up and flood it i get upset because i want to go in so bad it is so much fun and amazing
I think I understand now why I find your posts unintelligible. Frequent and extended periods of time in smoke filled buildings without sufficient oxygen.
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Personal choice that only the individual can make. If you're happy with it and the people you care about are too, then it's the right choice for you.

Commendable to sacrifice something you enjoy temporarily for the peace of mind of you Grandparents
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I think I understand now why I find your posts unintelligible. Frequent and extended periods of time in smoke filled buildings without sufficient oxygen.
LMAO yes that is a big part of it lol I spent 6 hours without air in a town home fire one time when the floor collapsed underneath me and the roof caved in on top of me

(that is why im not a fire fighter anymore I gave up that passion for my family)

and it was honestly one of the biggest mistakes of my life i miss it so much so now I only have my riding and I will never give that up
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okay i think this thread is going lil too far...

Ahmad ... do what you were raised and taught to do in this situation. As for me.. I was told by my wife to stop riding .. cuz of the crashes and risk it has with it while riding in the city. So keeping my wife/kid in my mind i stopped weekday riding for the most of it.. and took weekend riding ..towards the country. Now hoping to only do track days.. safer..fun..and more fun...

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me and Tony (houseofpain) are on the same thing my family does not like that i ride they have been with me in the hospital but they know it is my passion and part of my ife and they respect that just like tony's family respects it for him

I think the issue was that your families don't rely on you for care. (guessing could be wrong?) If you get run over tomorrow your family will continue on albeit sad or whatever. If he gets ran over who takes care of the grandparents???
Big difference when you have a huge responsibility.

Couple weeks ago I had to cancel my Dealsdragon trip, because I had to baby sit my father-in-law. (Leweys Disease)
I didn't throw a fit and say F* it I am going.. The road will outlive me and my bikes are always in the garage for another day.
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I think it is very admirable of you to respect your grandma's wishes while your mom & pops is away, they would probably trip out if they came back and grandma & grandpa was in a old folks home so you could ride your bike
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okay i think this thread is going lil too far...

Ahmad ... do what you were raised and taught to do in this situation.
As for me..I was told by my wife to stop riding .. cuz of the crashes and risk it has with it while riding in the city. So keeping my wife/kid in my mind i stopped weekday riding for the most of it.. and took weekend riding ..towards the country. Now hoping to only do track days.. safer..fun..and more fun...

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I think the issue was that your families don't rely on you for care. (guessing could be wrong?) If you get run over tomorrow your family will continue on albeit sad or whatever. If he gets ran over who takes care of the grandparents???
Big difference when you have a huge responsibility.

Couple weeks ago I had to cancel my Dealsdragon trip, because I had to baby sit my father-in-law. (Leweys Disease)
I didn't throw a fit and say F* it I am going.. The road will outlive me and my bikes are always in the garage for another day.
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1. This thread got way out of hand
2. Some of you need to learn how to type, spell, utilize grammar, etc. No names, but it is one of the parties that is involved in the above mentioned argument.
3. I do not think this thread has any cultural implication. This young man may be from Pakistan/India but what does that have to do with his need to care for his elderly grandparents? Any of us, regardless of ethnicity would do it... If any of you guys can really say, Screw you granny, i am goin' a riding," then you are some hardcore and cold hearted bastids...
4. Ahmad, read Post #17... kidding. You have to do the best for your situation. that being said, no one is going to truly understand your situation. I think it is wise for you to park the bike and make sure your grandparents are cared for until your parents get back. However, on the same note, it is also selfish of them to ask this of you (given that this is your desire) and it is also very unreasonable for them to think only something bad would happen to you while on a bike. But like in our risk averse culture, they are simply mitigating any extended risk to both you and them.
5. Good Luck... (when they go to sleep at night, just sneak a few laps around the block...lol..)
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I think the issue was that your families don't rely on you for care. (guessing could be wrong?) If you get run over tomorrow your family will continue on albeit sad or whatever. If he gets ran over who takes care of the grandparents???
Big difference when you have a huge responsibility.

Couple weeks ago I had to cancel my Dealsdragon trip, because I had to baby sit my father-in-law. (Leweys Disease)
I didn't throw a fit and say F* it I am going.. The road will outlive me and my bikes are always in the garage for another day.
My brother and my mother are both disabled if that enlightens you any

i have missed a ride here and there for somthing that was important but i will never stop riding ever
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1. This thread got way out of hand
2. Some of you need to learn how to type, spell, utilize grammar, etc. No names, but it is one of the parties that is involved in the above mentioned argument.
3. I do not think this thread has any cultural implication. This young man may be from Pakistan/India but what does that have to do with his need to care for his elderly grandparents? Any of us, regardless of ethnicity would do it... If any of you guys can really say, Screw you granny, i am goin' a riding," then you are some hardcore and cold hearted bastids...
4. Ahmad, read Post #17... kidding. You have to do the best for your situation. that being said, no one is going to truly understand your situation. I think it is wise for you to park the bike and make sure your grandparents are cared for until your parents get back. However, on the same note, it is also selfish of them to ask this of you (given that this is your desire) and it is also very unreasonable for them to think only something bad would happen to you while on a bike. But like in our risk averse culture, they are simply mitigating any extended risk to both you and them.
5. Good Luck... (when they go to sleep at night, just sneak a few laps around the block...lol..)
1. AGREED

2. = yeah you contradict number 1 by bringing this up when it has nothing to do with the topic and calling me out like that (but its cool i dont care about my typing if you cant read it and you dont like it I dont care)

4. Great point and I agree with everything in there

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