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Old 04-30-2008, 11:08 AM   #1
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Can a Helmet be Relined?

Can this be done, especially with the more expensive helmets like the higher grade Arai, Shoei, Suomy lids, etc.

I bought a used lid, to be used strictly as my spare for passengers. I don't use it, but neither will any passenger, which defeats its purpose. Because, even though I cleaned it out completely (took pads out and washed in machine, fabric cleaner on everything else... several times), the one area where the stink won't go away is the chin guard. Otherwise the helmet is fresh and clean. The guy who owned it must have horrible breath. I even used those odor killers for pet urine to try to knock it out!! No joy.

Anyway, can it be done... and moreso is it worth it? I'm talking about an Arai RX7 to be specific, so it's a TOL helmet by Arai. I'm almost ready to give it away
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:13 AM   #2
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where is the actual stink? you'd think the actual shell of the lid would not absorb the smell.
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where is the actual stink? you'd think the actual shell of the lid would not absorb the smell.
I don't think it's the shell. I think it's the chin guard liner, with all the vents, vinyl, etc. Even the breathe guard I took out and washed in the dishwasher!

It's gotta be the liner at the chin guard itself. I literally soaked (which probably ended up degrading the material to being worthless for its purpose) the thing in that odor killer overnight, and it's still there!! I cleaned it so well, it looks factory fresh inside.... except for the stink
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whow buddy... why not just stick one of those tree airfreshner things in the lid. nothin like summer breeze up the nose. but seriously if it can't be fixed hope you didn't pay much for the lid.
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try washing your hands before handling the washed pads.

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I've wondered this myself. I have a Shoei RF-1000 which doesn't have a fully removable liner. It only has removable cheek pads.

If they can be relined, do people send them back to the manuf. or just buy the liner and do it themselves? I'd be worried I'd mess it up if I did it myself.

Good thread! I'm sure this info will/can help many others here!
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Someone prolly shat in the helmet as a prank.
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yes, folks reline them all the time
So do you think it's worth it? How much? Directly with the manufacturer?

Do they just reline the fabric? I think it's more than just the fabric... probably the hard foam in the chin piece itself, which may mean I have to send it to Arai.
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Someone prolly shat in the helmet as a prank.
Yep happens all the time.
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you can buy new cheek pads (from cyclegear) and prolly helmet liner. other then that everything else is hard plastic.
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Arai will re-line it... for a fee. They'll also inspect the shell inner and outer for damage.

Sounds like you got 'da funk in the vents...


For storage with my helmets, I always keep a fabric softener sheet in the helmet while the helmet is in the bag. Keeps the funk away.
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Arai will re-line it... for a fee. They'll also inspect the shell inner and outer for damage.

Sounds like you got 'da funk in the vents...


For storage with my helmets, I always keep a fabric softener sheet in the helmet while the helmet is in the bag. Keeps the funk away.

i never put it in a bag and never a smell is just sitting in the top of the hom theater
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So do you think it's worth it? How much? Directly with the manufacturer?

Do they just reline the fabric? I think it's more than just the fabric... probably the hard foam in the chin piece itself, which may mean I have to send it to Arai.
I know old school guys who buy the vintage helmets and reline them themselves, go to www.jockeyjornal.com and do a search for relining and see what pops up. Its been discussed there before.
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i never put it in a bag and never a smell is just sitting in the top of the hom theater
mine just sits as well with the face open, mebbe I'll toss a dryer sheet in while it sits
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Stick it in your freezer for a few days. The smell is emanating from the byproducts of bacteria surviving within the helmet. Freezing it will kill them and thus the smell should abate.
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Stick it in your freezer for a few days. The smell is emanating from the byproducts of bacteria surviving within the helmet. Freezing it will kill them and thus the smell should abate.
never thought of this.
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I used to (when i was single) put my helmet in the refrigerator for an hour or so before a ride. Kept my head cool for a little while during hot summer rides.
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Does Freezing Destroy Bacteria & Parasites?
Freezing to 0 F inactivates any microbes -- bacteria, yeasts and molds - - present in food. Once thawed, however, these microbes can again become active, multiplying under the right conditions to levels that can lead to foodborne illness. Since they will then grow at about the same rate as microorganisms on fresh food, you must handle thawed items as you would any perishable food.

Trichina and other parasites can be destroyed by sub-zero freezing temperatures. However, very strict government-supervised conditions must be met. It is not recommended to rely on home freezing to destroy trichina. Thorough cooking will destroy all parasites.
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Freezing doesn't necessarily kill bacteria, it usually just slows or suspends it's metabolism.

I'd be concerned about the effects of any cleansers/solvents used on the impact absorbing foam. If if can be replaced by the manf at a reasonable cost, go that route. If all else fails, you can get new helmets cheap for your occasional passenger.
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