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Old 04-21-2008, 01:25 PM   #1
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Question Safely Practicing Emergency Braking in Curves

Link or recommendation on the safest way to practice braking hard while in the middle of a turn. Right now, my understanding is straight bike up and brake hard, but what if oncoming traffic?

I'd like to better increasing my braking skills which to me are the weakest link between my safety and handling.

Any advice or links on articles on this? I'd rather be known as the braking king than the throttle king! One will be much friendlier to keeping the shiny side up!
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? braking hard in a turn? you taken msf?
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if you brake in the middle of a hard turn, or reduce throttle you're going to stand the bike straight up and go off the road.
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yeeeesss. What i mean is if something happens when I'm going 60 mph and leaning my bike over, if their is oncoming traffic in one lane and object in my lane, hypothetically what is the best way to handle it besides become a hood ornament.
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if you brake in the middle of a hard turn, or reduce throttle you're going to stand the bike straight up and go off the road.

yes i know i'll stand it up.... So what would you do if say:

coming around corner at 60 mph and see deer in road. Oncoming truck in left lane. How would you prevent collision as best you could? How could you train for that?
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its best not to get into that situation, but if you are going to fast in a turn, I rather try to lean it to make it.

I rather lowside, than highside
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lean harder or less to move your bike out of the way, also dont ride into oncoming traffic if you need to stop in a turn staighten up the bike first then work your brakes, never hit your brakes while leaning
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yes i know i'll stand it up.... So what would you do if say:

coming around corner at 60 mph and see deer in road. Oncoming truck in left lane. How would you prevent collision as best you could? How could you train for that?
try to find a way to get around. Braking while leaned over especially with the front brake will make you low side. Instead if you have room gas it and point.
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its best not to get into that situation, but if you are going to fast in a turn, I rather try to lean it to make it.

I rather lowside, than highside
its best not to get into that situation,
Of course, but thats not what i'm asking. I understand about avoiding blind corners like that... but reallistically somethings happen because of your mistakes... so how in this issue would you recover best.

I rather lowside, than highside
So your vote would be that in a situation where you're bike is leaned over in a sweeper, its not possible to safely stop without running into the next lane, better to lowside... BUT then that leads to you slidding likely into the next lane, therefore avoiding becoming a hood ornament, and rather becoming embedded as tire tread!

Any other topoins.
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yes i know i'll stand it up.... So what would you do if say:

coming around corner at 60 mph and see deer in road. Oncoming truck in left lane. How would you prevent collision as best you could? How could you train for that?
then best thing for me, (im no instructor) try to serve and miss it. you hit your brakes, and you're gonna go straight into that on coming truck.

RacerX will probably chime it, as much as i hate to say, his advice will probably be the best. Or if you haven't check out some msf courses and ask your instructor
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yes i know i'll stand it up.... So what would you do if say:

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first off the road is not the track, dont take wide turn because you may end upo killing someone or your self, if a turn is blind or you dont know the turn dont speed trhough it, when your in a turn you need to look where you need to go keep your head looking into and try to look beyond the turn
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why you going 60 with the bike leaned over on the street ?
not part of the question ... i'm asking an answer to the situation, not preventive techinques for not getting in that situation in the first place.
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O one more thing. ALWAYS STAY IN YOUR LANE. THE ENTIRE ROAD IS NOT YOUR LANE ONLY ONE SIDE OF IT IS.
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first off the road is not the track, dont take wide turn because you may end upo killing someone or your self, if a turn is blind or you dont know the turn dont speed trhough it, when your in a turn you need to look where you need to go keep your head looking into and try to look beyond the turn

thanks, i know that. I'm asking what you would do in that situation, not what you'd do to prevent it.... i understand squidly behavior. But in a turn, what would you do if coming into a situation like that to help your chances....

Could make it say a highway turnoff and in the middle of the turnabout you notice something in the road you didn't see before etc... Just amuse me here, thanks.
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its best not to get into that situation,
Of course, but thats not what i'm asking. I understand about avoiding blind corners like that... but reallistically somethings happen because of your mistakes... so how in this issue would you recover best.

I rather lowside, than highside
So your vote would be that in a situation where you're bike is leaned over in a sweeper, its not possible to safely stop without running into the next lane, better to lowside... BUT then that leads to you slidding likely into the next lane, therefore avoiding becoming a hood ornament, and rather becoming embedded as tire tread!

Any other topoins.
no my vote is try to keep the bike on two wheels, but avoid both the deer and the truck
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O one more thing. ALWAYS STAY IN YOUR LANE. THE ENTIRE ROAD IS NOT YOUR LANE ONLY ONE SIDE OF IT IS.
yes... the double is your absolute limit... I understand this... if you are cutting it close to that double yellow you leave no room for traffic that may edge into your lane. I understand this.
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Once you recognize the obsticle, tear your eyes to the direction to want to try to go around. If inside, push the bars down as far as they will go. Once they stop going lower and you can't push anymore, get your off the seat.
If you have time, start saying as many Hail Mary's as you can before you lowside, lol...
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also i rather hit a deer, then a truck

theres not too much you can do by the time you see the deer in a turn
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