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Old 04-21-2008, 01:05 PM   #21
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if they listened they wouldn't be called noobs.

and since I'm somehow, magically the first to ask;

HAVE THEY TAKEN THE MSF COURSE? RACER WANTS YOU TO! DON'T LEARN MISTAKES FROM ANOTHER IDIOT IN A PARKING LOT!
why not if the idiot is alive and been through some then why not learn from other peoples mistakes, and msf? really? msf is great but does not prepare you for houston freeways not sure who your calling the idiot? people teaching them whats up or some dumbass who teaches them to ride in a parking lot?
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:14 PM   #22
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why not if the idiot is alive and been through some then why not learn from other peoples mistakes, and msf? really? msf is great but does not prepare you for houston freeways not sure who your calling the idiot? people teaching them whats up or some dumbass who teaches them to ride in a parking lot?
most of the dumbasses have been riding longer then you've been alive let alone riding, so they may have a few words of wisdom.
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most of the dumbasses have been riding longer then you've been alive let alone riding, so they may have a few words of wisdom.
dude read the other posts didint mean msf instructors mean people who get a bike and have a buddy teach them in a p. lot NON MSF INSTRUCTORS
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Once the MSF course has been taken, the next thing new riders need is experience. I see nothing wrong with being a mentor and riding with them. The idea is not to get them in SMR groups where they are uncomfortable or feel the need to prove something, but to get them out and about where they can apply the things they should have learned in class. Safe mileage with an experienced rider and the opportunity to ask questions as things come up will go a long way toward making them better riders.
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Once the MSF course has been taken, the next thing new riders need is experience. I see nothing wrong with being a mentor and riding with them. The idea is not to get them in SMR groups where they are uncomfortable or feel the need to prove something, but to get them out and about where they can apply the things they should have learned in class. Safe mileage with an experienced rider and the opportunity to ask questions as things come up will go a long way toward making them better riders.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:26 PM   #26
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Once the MSF course has been taken, the next thing new riders need is experience. I see nothing wrong with being a mentor and riding with them. The idea is not to get them in SMR groups where they are uncomfortable or feel the need to prove something, but to get them out and about where they can apply the things they should have learned in class. Safe mileage with an experienced rider and the opportunity to ask questions as things come up will go a long way toward making them better riders.
thank you thats all i meant
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I hear you out omega. I see nothin wrong to getting tips or pointers on what to avoid and look out for. I for one have never been on a bike but when I am round bikers I ask simple stupid questions and I take that advice as very helpful. once I find the bike I am lookin for and get everythin in place, I would love for someone to watch over me or give me a hand.
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sounds like it is time for another noob ride. Problem is, an afternoon ride will not teach you what you need to know to survive on the city streets. Neither will a track day, altho it will help you to know the limits on the bike and realize how far you can go with it.

Best thing you can do is mentally practice countersteering, make a habit of covering the brakes and clutch, put your head on a swivel, and practice looking 1/4 mile or better down the road.
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I hear you out omega. I see nothin wrong to getting tips or pointers on what to avoid and look out for. I for one have never been on a bike but when I am round bikers I ask simple stupid questions and I take that advice as very helpful. once I find the bike I am lookin for and get everythin in place, I would love for someone to watch over me or give me a hand.
really you dont have abike yet? and im no expert but if you need anything lmk
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sounds like it is time for another noob ride. Problem is, an afternoon ride will not teach you what you need to know to survive on the city streets. Neither will a track day, altho it will help you to know the limits on the bike and realize how far you can go with it.

Best thing you can do is mentally practice countersteering, make a habit of covering the brakes and clutch, put your head on a swivel, and practice looking 1/4 mile or better down the road.
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Once the MSF course has been taken, the next thing new riders need is experience. I see nothing wrong with being a mentor and riding with them. The idea is not to get them in SMR groups where they are uncomfortable or feel the need to prove something, but to get them out and about where they can apply the things they should have learned in class. Safe mileage with an experienced rider and the opportunity to ask questions as things come up will go a long way toward making them better riders.
Here's my take... I only went on one of the infamous SMR's, but I did learn a lot about myself. There were 2 groups, I was in the slow one (I ride an SV, come on). I tried to keep up in the beginning, realized I was being an idiot, watched someone wreck because he was in over his head (like me), and realized that I didn't want to be in his position and I could care less what people think. I am better than that and I am above the influence of the peer pressure that gets soooooo so many in dire situations. For some the MSF teaches responsibility and how to ride your own ride above the influence of the dumb , for others it's just a way to get a license with out having a DPS officer follow you around. The latter of the two are statistics and that's the way it is.

When it comes to riding, I personally feel that you cannot save someone's life, only they can save themselves through good training and responsible riding.

Just my 2 pennies for whatever it's worth.

EDIT: Oh yeah, after I witnessed my first wreck, I rode within my limits and had a great time on that ride.
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We did one last year and it was a success! Never went over 95 the entire day and no wrecks! Good people, great weather, excellent food, and lots of helpful info being shared at every stop.

THIS IS MAKING WANT TO RIDE THE STREETS AGAIN
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Here's my take... I only went on one of the infamous SMR's, but I did learn a lot about myself. There were 2 groups, I was in the slow one (I ride an SV, come on). I tried to keep up in the beginning, realized I was being an idiot, watched someone wreck because he was in over his head (like me), and realized that I didn't want to be in his position and I could care less what people think. I am better than that and I am above the influence of the peer pressure that gets soooooo so many in dire situations. For some the MSF teaches responsibility and how to ride your own ride above the influence of the dumb , for others it's just a way to get a license with out having a DPS officer follow you around. The latter of the two are statistics and that's the way it is.

When it comes to riding, I personally feel that you cannot save someone's life, only they can save themselves through good training and responsible riding.

Just my 2 pennies for whatever it's worth.

EDIT: Oh yeah, after I witnessed my first wreck, I rode within my limits and had a great time on that ride.
disagree with some of your points, first off not to many people can keep up with my sv and i know alot of people including myslef when i first started riding a few years back it would of been nice to have some one how to check their bikes out before they ride and how to controll wind pressure, instead of being extremely nervous and feel like your going to wreck, took me years to be just a lil comfrotabkle on the streets, i think alot of people panic when they feel the road dip in turns or there not lookin whrere they need to go and the panic, same goes for when there in high wind situatuions, look at all the threads about bike feels wobbly, just saying give noobs some porinters thats it, no can baby sit ppeople and ride with them always but if what you showed them stick its fine if not then you did your best
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THIS IS MAKING WANT TO RIDE THE STREETS AGAIN
What country were you riding in sir? I know of no place in Texas where the Spped limit is over 70Mph in the Day Time
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