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Old 04-16-2008, 09:26 AM   #41
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youre problem seems to be a common one amongst newer riders. its called yamahitis. very contagious, but easily curable. go to your nearest suzuki dealership STAT and get a gsxr then call me in the morning.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:44 AM   #42
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1. Sitting in neutral at a light is a good way to end up as a hood ornament.

2. Don't use 1st gear for engine braking if it is making all kinds of noise as you describe.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:46 AM   #43
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somebody experienced should really hear your "prob", it may just be normal, but over the net it's hard to diagnose.
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1. Sitting in neutral at a light is a good way to end up as a hood ornament.
Not if you know when the signal will change. Sometimes at long lights, I turn off the engine to save gas and allow some of the heat to dissipate.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:15 AM   #45
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Not if you know when the signal will change. Sometimes at long lights, I turn off the engine to save gas and allow some of the heat to dissipate.
+1. If I know a signal takes forever. I am not sitting there for 5+ mins squeezing my clutch.
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:19 AM   #46
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I will let a certified MSF instructor respond to your posts but, I would like to see how you believe your reaction to a car that is not slowing down would be.
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Not if you know when the signal will change. Sometimes at long lights, I turn off the engine to save gas and allow some of the heat to dissipate.
Are you being serious?

Like another poster said .... that's a good way to end up as a hood ornament. I can think of two instances where I had to get out of the way because jackass behind me wasn't paying attention. Can't easily do that with motor turned off.

You'd save more gas by just letting the bike run.
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Not saying I agree with turning the engine off. But I put it in neutral.
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Are you being serious?

Like another poster said .... that's a good way to end up as a hood ornament. I can think of two instances where I had to get out of the way because jackass behind me wasn't paying attention. Can't easily do that with motor turned off.

You'd save more gas by just letting the bike run.
when there is already a car behind you its pretty difficult to see if the one behind that is slowing down. I click into neutral if there is traffic around me sometimes, don't really have a preference one way or the other. I do hate it when people coast up to the light in neutral, then panic to find 1st the second they put their feet down cause the light changed, messes up everyone behind them.
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a rider died last yr when a 3rd car back, rear ended the 2nd, which pushed it into the 1st car, which ended up hitting the rider.


1) no lid, prolly would've saved him
2) be very very sure enough cars are behind you and stopped before clicking into N.

don't know about shutting off the engine either.
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when there is already a car behind you its pretty difficult to see if the one behind that is slowing down. I click into neutral if there is traffic around me sometimes, don't really have a preference one way or the other. I do hate it when people coast up to the light in neutral, then panic to find 1st the second they put their feet down cause the light changed, messes up everyone behind them.

I always stayed to the far left or right of the lane so that I could see what's going on behind the car behind me, or in front of me for that matter. Not saying that you're wrong ... just giving advice.


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I've never turned off the engine on purpose, and wouldn't have thought of that at all, never had a cooling problem.
I know pile ups like that happen scarily often around the freeway here, but I honestly don't think I have enough skill to avoid it by being in gear if I see it happening behind me.
I sometimes push close to the curb if its a long stop and the gutter is clean, but I rarely maintain that vigilant mindstate of mirror checking. Guess I'll have to try and make it a habbit.
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... I rarely maintain that vigilant mindstate of mirror checking. Guess I'll have to try and make it a habbit.
It saved me lots of times.
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I will let a certified MSF instructor respond to your posts but, I would like to see how you believe your reaction to a car that is not slowing down would be.
I do this AFTER all cars are stopped behind me. I watch my mirrors and ready to roll until several cars behind me are all stopped.
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I always stayed to the far left or right of the lane so that I could see what's going on behind the car behind me, or in front of me for that matter. Not saying that you're wrong ... just giving advice.


+1...You can see pretty far back if you know what you're doing.

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I'm talking about a long light, not on a major highway, with several rows of cars behind me that are all stopped. I put it in neutral a lot of the time and occasionally turn off the engine, only at some ridiculously long lights that are between my home and work.
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I'm talking about a long light, not on a major highway, with several rows of cars behind me that are all stopped. I put it in neutral a lot of the time and occasionally turn off the engine, only at some ridiculously long lights that are between my home and work.
I can remember doing this a few times.

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I can remember doing this a few times.

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If lane splitting is ever legalized here in TX, I'll buy a supermotard and lane split like crazy. Until then, I'll sit in the back of the line and bake on the asphault.
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I hug either side of the line to watch all the traffic behind me and to not be in a direct impact / crunch zone and my hand seems to have zero problems holding the clutch for this at any length of time.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:10 PM   #60
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Yeah, me too. I was at Eldridge and 1960 and had to white line up past the car infront of me b/c some lady in an F-150 was coming too fast. She didn't hit the car infront of me but would have hit the bike if I had stayed.

I remember looking in my mirror and thinking that this is not where I wanted to be, watching her come up quick in the truck.
All I could see was that big FORD in the front and all I could taste was the Fruit of the Looms, lol...
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