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Old 04-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #1
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2008 Suzuki GSX 650f, new rider

I am brand new to riding, in fact i havent even taken my MSF course yet but will do that towards the end of April. I have been looking at bikes and i came across the gsx 650f and think its got the things im looking for; i want something sporty but dont need the full out power of a sportsbike, and i need something comfortable because i want to use it as a commuter bike and use it to go camping. Since this is a brand new bike i havent heard to much from other riders about it so i was wondering what experienced riders have to say about this bike. I plan on taking the MSF course this month and then sometime in May or early June going out and getting a bike after practice.
Any information or tips you have would be helpful because i am BRAND NEW

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Looks like a great bike as far as a tuned-down sport bike. I would personally be a little weary of buying a bike during its first year of production though, always nice to let someone else be the guinea pig for you. As far as camping and long trips it doesn't look like it will be much more comfortable then your everyday SS bike. Check out a few more sport-touring bikes and get a real good idea of all your options before making any decision. Last but not least, welcome to MH
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looks like theyre bumping the gs 500 up a step eh?

go for it.....that series has never been a big, super fast bike...
no they are bumping the 600 kanotuna up a notch

it should be a good first bike and a commuter
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Old 04-08-2008, 03:45 PM   #5
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Old 04-08-2008, 03:45 PM   #6
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Well go introduce yourself first... but Welcome to MH regardless... hope you find what your looking for... Camping huh... its hard to put a hitch on this bike tho...
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If your looking for a bike around that check out the Kawasakie 650R that thing is awesome, it's fast yet forgiving and it was my girlfriends first bike. she's never ridden before but after taking the MSF course we picked i up for her and she loves it. it's also very comfortable to ride.

also IMO better looking that exhaust is sick

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Old 04-08-2008, 03:52 PM   #10
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Get a ninja 250. I'm 6-3 and i didn't regret it. It will save you from many mistakes, if you want the link on why to choose it read this: http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Why_spo...beginner_bikes


You shoudl seriously consider it. I've been saved from many problems by a lower cc bike during my first year. It can get you into supra legal speeds just like any bike, its just not so uncontrollably fast or twitchy....

my 2 cents. Also, you can get it cheap, $2000-4500 (if you want the new its more, they look better)... and sell in a year for close to the same price. So don't worry about being stuck with it.
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kit kat, before you plunk down the cash, go try a few on for size. How tall are you? Brand new, never ridden a dirt bike or anything?

You may want to seriously consider a 250, depending on your answers. Any of the 500-600 bikes are close, if not over 400 pounds. The 250 is closer to 300.

My short wife rode her 250 for a year and had no issues. Then she got her 650 and had a hard time getting used to the extra weight and seat height. Even after lowering she is only on the of her feet.
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nice bike. Nobody can probably give you feed back on the 650 GSF, because it is practically a new model (katana smatana )

definitely look at all your options before buying brand new...biggest mistake I made was buying brand new
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Don't be a poser and think that getting a 250 makes you less of a biker. The only ribbing i've gotten is from retarded coworkers and non motorcylists... every biker i've ridden with (mind you i avoid squids except in sushi bars) has lauded me starting with a smaller cc. They've also told me: "YOU CAN NEVER START TO SMALL"..... I do think a mopeds a bit little though to keep up! Anyway, the 250 is perfect for commuting and i kept up with 1000cc on some twisties decently, even when going 80-90. As long as you aren't into 100mph speeds all the time its a blast and cheap.... If you are routinely doing 100mph on public roads... realize you probably fit the title Squid; and need to try your stuff on a track instead.

The new 250 is amazing too. Some riders stick with the 250, since it really is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow!!!
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i really like what you all have said, i was hoping someone has ridden one because it is a brand new model and i agree i wish i could get one used but i also dont want to get a katana...
as far as some of yalls questions:
My name is kevin, im about 5'8" and around 140 so im not a big guy and dont need a big bike, as far as camping, im talking about backpacking, i have everything i need in a backpack...
Another reason why im looking at bikes is gas mileage, i currently have a truck that gets 13mpg and supposedly this gsx 650 f gets 50mpg
i know a few people suggest 250's at first but money wise i dont want to purchase a bike and then turn around and get another, i want to make more of a long term investment... thank you for everything and i am looking for more suggestions, as far as MSF i am going to AWESOME cycles because i have heard nothing but good things about them
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i really like what you all have said, i was hoping someone has ridden one because it is a brand new model and i agree i wish i could get one used but i also dont want to get a katana...
as far as some of yalls questions:
My name is kevin, im about 5'8" and around 140 so im not a big guy and dont need a big bike, as far as camping, im talking about backpacking, i have everything i need in a backpack...
Another reason why im looking at bikes is gas mileage, i currently have a truck that gets 13mpg and supposedly this gsx 650 f gets 50mpg
i know a few people suggest 250's at first but money wise i dont want to purchase a bike and then turn around and get another, i want to make more of a long term investment... thank you for everything and i am looking for more suggestions, as far as MSF i am going to AWESOME cycles because i have heard nothing but good things about them

Did you read that article, what about:
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Shouldn...ater_anyway%3F


Your logic is very poor (no offense).... Its not going to be your last bike....
SURE, i've been frustrated at time, wanting a bigger bike with more power... BUT then i make some mistake that i save my on because i don't have more power, and then i drop it in the parking lot and i don't have to cry because i just bought a new SV650 or aprilia etc.....

Most riders change bikes 2-3 years, so don't think you'll be the exception.



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On about a three month interval, a whole slew of questions pop up on the BB forum from potential riders trying to convince the community that a 600cc sportbike is a suitable first ride and then proceed to explain to us why they are the exception. I can almost set my clock to this pattern of behavior since it is almost swarm-like. I guess the newbies figure by swamping the forum with the same questions in lots of places we might trip up and endorse such a machine. Hasn't happened yet but they keep on trying.

For those of you that come to Beginner Bikes trying to convince us to endorse a 600cc sportbike, I offer you the following responses to your arguments.

I can only afford to get one bike, so it might as well be the one that I want.
I don't want to go through the hassle of buying and selling a used bike to learn on.
These two lines of reasoning pop up as one of the more common arguments. I am going to offer first a piece of wisdom which is stated with great regularity on the forums:

This is your first bike, not your last.

Motorcycle riders are reputed to change bikes, on average, once every two to three years. If this is the case (and it appears to be based on my observations), the bike you learn to ride on will not be in your garage in a few years time anyway whether you buy it new or used. You're going to sell it regardless to get something different, newer, more powerful, more comfortable, etc.

Yes, buying a bike involves effort and a financial outlay. Most of us simply cannot afford to drop thousands of dollars on a whim every time we want to try something new. Getting into riding is a serious commitment in time and money and we want the best value out it as much as possible.

However, if you can afford to buy outright or finance a 600cc or up sportbike that costs $7000 on average, you can probably afford to spend $2000 or so on a used bike to learn on. Most of the beginner sportbikes we recommend here (Ninja 250/500, Buell Blast, GS500) can all be found used for between $1500-$3000.

Done properly, buying and selling that first bike is a fairly painless process. Buying a used bike is no harder than buying new. I would argue it is a bit easier. No different than buying a used car from a private seller. If you've done that at least once, you'll know what to do in buying a used bike.

Selling a beginner bike is even easier. You want to know why? Because beginner bikes are constantly in demand (especially Ninja 250s). These bikes spend their lives migrating from one new rider to the next to act as a teaching vehicle. It is not uncommon for a beginner bike to see four or five different owners before it is wrecked or junked. There are a lot of people out there looking for inexpensive, reliable bikes and all of our beginner recommendations fit into that category.

If you buy a used Ninja 250R for $1500, ride it for a season or two, you can be almost guaranteed that you will be able to resell that bike for $1300 or so when you are done with it provided you take care of it. And on a bike like the Ninja 250R, the average turnaround on such a sale is two to three days. No joke. I had five offers on my Ninja 250R within FOUR HOURS of my ad going up on Cycle Trader. I put the bike on hold the same day and sold it four days later to a fellow who drove 500 miles to pick it up. My bike never made it into the print edition. Believe me, the demand is there.

And look at it this way: For those one or two seasons of riding using the above example, excluding maintenance costs which you have no matter what, you will have paid a net cost of $200 to ride that Ninja. That is extremely cheap for what is basically a bike rental for a year or two. Considering it can cost $300 or more just to rent a 600cc sportbike for a weekend (not including the $1500-$2000 security deposit), that is economic value that you simply cannot argue with.


If you want our advice its there for a reason.... Don't try to convince us... We are watching out for YOUR BEST....
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