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Old 04-08-2008, 09:43 AM   #1
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Track Bike Fluid Questions

I have been working on my SV for the track and have a few questions.
I am using distilled water and Water Whetter in the cooling system to get rid of the antifreeze.

1. I need a good mineral based (non-synthetic) oil that I can use in the bike. Please suggest a good product.

2. I would like to go about 3-4 tracks day on the oil and then about 6-8 track days on the filter. Is the OEM filter good for this appliction or did I need something with a higher micron rating? Will the aftermarket filters have a internal by-pass like the OEM filter?

3. I have stainless steel brake lines on the front and aftermarket pads on the front and rear. All seem to be new or good shape. I would to change the fluid to a high temp DOT 4. Are there any suggestions on the type that works the best?

4. I have Race Tech components in the front forks and would like to change the fluid. I was checking the service manual and it doesn't look like they need to be removed to drain and refill. Could be wrong.
What is a good oil to use in these?

5. Do I need to do anything with the Ohlins unit on the rear?

6. I was planning on installing a Scott's steering dampner on the bike. These units appear to be the choice on most SV's that I see. Is this a good choice or should I go with a different MFG?

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Old 04-08-2008, 09:50 AM   #2
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2. I would like to go about 3-4 tracks day on the oil and then about 6-8 track days on the filter. Is the OEM filter good for this appliction or did I need something with a higher micron rating? Will the aftermarket filters have a internal by-pass like the OEM filter?

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I just give you some good info sites on oil filters and you can make up you own mind. Oil and oil filter discussions always turn out badly.

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo...tml#OilFilters
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html
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1. Motul
2. You should change the oil and filter after every track day.
3. Motul
4. Motul
5. Adjust it for your weight.
6. Scotts or GPR should do the trick.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:58 AM   #4
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1. Why mineral based and not synthetic? I've been using Castrol Actevo(semi-synthetic) in my SV with no problems so far.

3. Motul RBF600 not sure if it's the BEST but Motorcycles Unlimited recommended it so it can't be too bad.

try posting up on svrider.com if you haven't already.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:00 PM   #5
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I have been working on my SV for the track and have a few questions.
I am using distilled water and Water Whetter in the cooling system to get rid of the antifreeze.

1. I need a good mineral based (non-synthetic) oil that I can use in the bike. Please suggest a good product.

2. I would like to go about 3-4 tracks day on the oil and then about 6-8 track days on the filter. Is the OEM filter good for this appliction or did I need something with a higher micron rating? Will the aftermarket filters have a internal by-pass like the OEM filter?

3. I have stainless steel brake lines on the front and aftermarket pads on the front and rear. All seem to be new or good shape. I would to change the fluid to a high temp DOT 4. Are there any suggestions on the type that works the best?

4. I have Race Tech components in the front forks and would like to change the fluid. I was checking the service manual and it doesn't look like they need to be removed to drain and refill. Could be wrong.
What is a good oil to use in these?

5. Do I need to do anything with the Ohlins unit on the rear?

6. I was planning on installing a Scott's steering dampner on the bike. These units appear to be the choice on most SV's that I see. Is this a good choice or should I go with a different MFG?

Thanks guys,

CLETUS

1) The SV is hard on it's rod bearings, especially when used on the track, so I'd recommend using a full synthetic oil.
I've had excellent results using Motul 300V in SV race bikes.

2) The stock filter, Hi Flo or K&N are all good.
However, I recommend changing the oil every other track day at least.

3) We've used several different brake fluids in the race bikes, and have had excellent results using the Motul RBF brake fluid, with a boiling point of 594 degrees.

4) I'd recommend Bel Ray 20 weight and would also recommend fully disassembling the forks and cleaning them.

5) How many miles / track days are on it?

6) I'd go with the Scotts.
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1. I've been using the honda non synthetic oil in my bike (HP4 - I think that's what it's called).

2. Change every other track day - oil and filter. OEM Filter.

3. Motul as Patrick pointed out.

4. 20 wt.

5. Set the sag

6. No need for steering damper on the SV. I never had any issues with headshakes and such on this bike. But, if you must, Scotts is probably best choice.
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1. Motul
2. You should change the oil and filter after every track day.
3. Motul
4. Motul
5. Adjust it for your weight.
6. Scotts or GPR should do the trick.
This is especially important if you're looking to throw your money away.
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This is especially important if you're looking to throw your money away.
Oil is cheap.
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Oil is cheap.
Yes, it is, but you're still throwing money away. As far as I'm concerned, whether you're throwing away $5 or $100, you're still throwing it away.
That's an unecessary $30-$50 a trackday...
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Yes, it is, but you're still throwing money away. As far as I'm concerned, whether you're throwing away $5 or $100, you're still throwing it away.
That's an unecessary $30-$50 a trackday...
I also like to get under the bike and look things over so this goes with the routine but, it is personal preference. I have gone with out changing it for a couple in the past with no problems as well.
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