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Old 04-07-2008, 06:31 PM   #1
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So there has been a lot of dog posts around here, and my question is, what kind of handler schools have any of you been to, and what did you learn? I'll share mine later. What kind do you have and what have you done to familiarize yourself with the breed and it's capabilities?
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So there has been a lot of dog posts around here, and my question is, what kind of handler schools have any of you been to, and what did you learn? I'll share mine later. What kind do you have and what have you done to familiarize yourself with the breed and it's capabilities?
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My dog jumped ship at 50 mph, so now hes scared of the inside of the truck, too (where I put him to take him home).

Hes getting better about being inside, but still won't get in on his own (I pick him up, whimpering).

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My dog jumped ship at 50 mph, so now hes scared of the inside of the truck, too (where I put him to take him home).

Hes getting better about being inside, but still won't get in on his own (I pick him up, whimpering).

Helpful hints (besides not putting him in the bed)?
Awww. He's scared to death of the car! :/: There really isn't a great way to make him face his fears- he just doesn't understand that. Only time will heal - and he may not ever love going 'bye-bye'

I've never had any formal training, but I've had dogs all my life and worked with them for years. My dogs (save one little retarded one) are well trained and have mostly good manners- although they are spoiled brats.
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well, I had no formal dog training until I got my malanois during my 10 year stint as a popo. afterwards I went to k9 handler schools all over, trying to be as good a hander as the dog I was gifted with. he was ending his term of service with the DODMWDA, and was smarter than most people. I had to buy him myself, as the dept at the time wouldn't spend the money (typical PD stupidity). so I got to go to schitzhund schools, regular patrol schools (mine was a track-and-bite, not detection) and a few others. I was lucky because my first one was already trained to do everything, but I needed to know how to keep him that way. handler certification, and general training/upkeep became a monthly thing. since I left (he passed several years after) I have taken my other adopted dogs to petsmart or other places for remedial training. unfortunately, they are good at some basics, but lack real education (what can you expect for $125). has anyone else been to the petsmart classes? has anyone else worked schitzhund here in houston? what did you think of either? has anyone worked up a dog for hunting, or for social/hospital work? I have a golden, a basset, and a fuzzy thing, so I can't do schitzhund anymore, but I was thinking about doing agility courses or some of those action competitions? has any of the people that drew out the pit thread done anything with theirs? there was a lot of opinions over there!
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So there has been a lot of dog posts around here, and my question is, what kind of handler schools have any of you been to, and what did you learn? I'll share mine later. What kind do you have and what have you done to familiarize yourself with the breed and it's capabilities?
None, raised on the farm, have owned many different breeds and working dogs. I have watched training videos, and learned from others.

I have only had one dog try to bite me that we have owned. A catahoula leopard. This is a herding dog that has a blood line from wolves. That dog was transferred to an experienced Catahoula trainer/worker at a year old. He had the dog for 6 months before the dog turned on him also. The dog was put down. All my dogs since I was a kid have been well trained and well mannered. Ranging from chihuahuas, australian shephards, multiple beagles, retrievers, dachsunds, blue heelers and mutts. The only dog that is/was not real obedient is the golden we have now that my wife wanted to train with a gentle hand. I am not an abuser, but I am much more stern. Part of being a farm boy i guess. She is a sweet dog, just doesn't mind (kinda like the owner ). But, since you are tying this to the other thread, I also don't have confidence in my ability to own a fighting breed and handle them well enough to guarantee it won't turn on my family. In fact, I think probably 90% of the owners out there with those breeds are not capable, but that is my opinion. If I owned one, it would be a working dog (hogs) and therefore would not be a family pet anyways.
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well, I had no formal dog training until I got my malanois during my 10 year stint as a popo. afterwards I went to k9 handler schools all over, trying to be as good a hander as the dog I was gifted with. he was ending his term of service with the DODMWDA, and was smarter than most people. I had to buy him myself, as the dept at the time wouldn't spend the money (typical PD stupidity). so I got to go to schitzhund schools, regular patrol schools (mine was a track-and-bite, not detection) and a few others. I was lucky because my first one was already trained to do everything, but I needed to know how to keep him that way. handler certification, and general training/upkeep became a monthly thing. since I left (he passed several years after) I have taken my other adopted dogs to petsmart or other places for remedial training. unfortunately, they are good at some basics, but lack real education (what can you expect for $125). has anyone else been to the petsmart classes? has anyone else worked schitzhund here in houston? what did you think of either? has anyone worked up a dog for hunting, or for social/hospital work? I have a golden, a basset, and a fuzzy thing, so I can't do schitzhund anymore, but I was thinking about doing agility courses or some of those action competitions? has any of the people that drew out the pit thread done anything with theirs? there was a lot of opinions over there!
I started my black lab I have now for retrieving birds. Had her to a point she would do it, and then I got busy, moved to Houston, and quit working with her as much. She would go get doves for me, but I didn't have her getting ducks yet. :/: That is what I used the videos for. Goldens are really smart. Mine doesn't have the patience to learn that stuff, but she got spoiled to much as a puppy. I truly think if you can't spoil them before you teach them. At least not as much as mine got spoiled. I think agility courses would be awesome. I would love to get dogs into the hunting competitions, or the long jump in stuff.
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having a bird dog would be awesome, but I just don't hunt as much as I used too. the competitions of all kinds does look really fun, I'm going to check in and see what all I need to do. goldens are so smart, but they also get their feelings hurt easily if you correct them harshly. mine gets a sad dejected look, and looks for my gf to sit in her lap if I say anything above a whisper when correcting him.

funny, with as many opinions as were thrown about with the pit thing, so few seem to have any background or education with regard to what they were arguing about.


hmmmmmmm.
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having a bird dog would be awesome, but I just don't hunt as much as I used too. the competitions of all kinds does look really fun, I'm going to check in and see what all I need to do. goldens are so smart, but they also get their feelings hurt easily if you correct them harshly. mine gets a sad dejected look, and looks for my gf to sit in her lap if I say anything above a whisper when correcting him.

funny, with as many opinions as were thrown about with the pit thing, so few seem to have any background or education with regard to what they were arguing about.


hmmmmmmm.
haha, my golden is the same way. My last one was a man's dog. She was awesome, this one, well she is a IMO. Love her, she is sweet, but can't listen for jack. My old one used to dig out of my yard. Well being the redneck I am, I got a hot wire for the bottom of the fence. She promptly unplugged the cord from the box, without chewing on the cord. Opened the gate using the handle and went playing. Some one stole her though. She was my favorite so far. :/:

And you are right about the pits, thats my problem with them. I think professional training SHOULD be required to own them. But most dogs don't need THAT much special attention to be good family dogs. I know they CAN be good dogs.
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I have never taken any of my dogs to formal training, dont know if I lucked out and got really good dogs or what. I can leave my pom outside and she will never leave my yard, i can have her cage open or even my front door open and she wont leave without permission, my mom tries to give her food and she will leave it there until she gets an ok. She is such a good dog, she is the type of dog you dont have to have a leash to walk.
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well, I had no formal dog training until I got my malanois during my 10 year stint as a popo. afterwards I went to k9 handler schools all over, trying to be as good a hander as the dog I was gifted with. he was ending his term of service with the DODMWDA, and was smarter than most people. I had to buy him myself, as the dept at the time wouldn't spend the money (typical PD stupidity). so I got to go to schitzhund schools, regular patrol schools (mine was a track-and-bite, not detection) and a few others. I was lucky because my first one was already trained to do everything, but I needed to know how to keep him that way. handler certification, and general training/upkeep became a monthly thing. since I left (he passed several years after) I have taken my other adopted dogs to petsmart or other places for remedial training. unfortunately, they are good at some basics, but lack real education (what can you expect for $125). has anyone else been to the petsmart classes? has anyone else worked schitzhund here in houston? what did you think of either? has anyone worked up a dog for hunting, or for social/hospital work? I have a golden, a basset, and a fuzzy thing, so I can't do schitzhund anymore, but I was thinking about doing agility courses or some of those action competitions? has any of the people that drew out the pit thread done anything with theirs? there was a lot of opinions over there!

I see that the Malanois is quicky becoming the working (police, military) dog of choice. why is that? are they that even tempered?
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no training besides seeing how my dad handled dogs growing up and seeing what worked. I have a russian toy terrier that used to beg for food... now she just gives you the sad eyes and waits for me to feel guilty.... and the aussie, i got when he was 3 years old but he's learing some things.... so i must be doing something right
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Poms are cute. My wife had a miniature dachsund which was the cutest thing too. Sad story with that one.
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malanois are a little trickier to work than shepherds. they have a longer attention span, but can be harder to "out" (release a bite from toy or person). I have had both shepherds and malanois, it really depends on the handler and his commitment. a malanois is NOT the dog of choice for a first time handler.


most dogs will respond to attention as a motivator. little dogs are SO attention motivated. I like them all.
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malanois are a little trickier to work than shepherds. they have a longer attention span, but can be harder to "out" (release a bite from toy or person). I have had both shepherds and malanois, it really depends on the handler and his commitment. a malanois is NOT the dog of choice for a first time handler.


most dogs will respond to attention as a motivator. little dogs are SO attention motivated. I like them all.
have you ever worked with Rotties or how about a Boerboel. any opinions on working with either breeds? my rotties are well trained but I cannot train the Boerboel for the life of me. a very smart dog when it wants to be.
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