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Old 04-03-2008, 09:22 PM   #1
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Bodywork vendor closes doors...

Sadly, Cycleskins had to close up shop.

I just got the word. The just couldn't compete with the internet brands and Ebay brands that are out there, even though those products were clearly inferior to Cycleskins.

For those of you who bought this brand, you KNOW how good it was. It truly is a shame.

My suggestion is to stick with the Attack Performance brand of bodywork. It is clearly superior to every other brand of bodywork made today; not even Sharkskinz can match the quality for fit, finish or overall workmanship.

Oh well, no more good/ inexpensive bodywork companies left now!
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:43 PM   #2
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Hey Tom, Larry is getting bodywork branded as Racer Supply. Not sure on all the details, from a japanese company yasimakaskui or something like that. Good news is it's only 299.00 a set for any bike. I'm gettting a set as a tester to see how well it's made, I'll let you know or you can take a look when it gets in. Who knows.....?
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i guess i'm SOL then....
Yeah, wish you were able to do that deal when we had it going on... I NEVER saw this coming. I got no indication that there were any problems, and it seemed like things were rosy every time I ordered.

I'm still stunned.

I'm actually thinking of seeing if I can buy his molds, or some of them anyway.
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dude you should buy his molds
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Hey Tom, Larry is getting bodywork branded as Racer Supply. Not sure on all the details, from a japanese company yasimakaskui or something like that. Good news is it's only 299.00 a set for any bike. I'm gettting a set as a tester to see how well it's made, I'll let you know or you can take a look when it gets in. Who knows.....?
Yeah, I talked to Larry at MSR a couple weeks ago. He told me about it, and he seemed very enthusiastic about it.

I hope things work out for him on that, it would be good to have a good set of bodywork with vendors that are close for that price.
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dude you should buy his molds
+1!

I mean was'nt it you that sent the AK people the SV prototype bodywork?

It'd be badarse to have a line of bodywork start out under your name!
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Yeah, wish you were able to do that deal when we had it going on... I NEVER saw this coming. I got no indication that there were any problems, and it seemed like things were rosy every time I ordered.

I'm still stunned.

I'm actually thinking of seeing if I can buy his molds, or some of them anyway.
do u have any experience casting fiberglass in multiple part molds or rubber molds Tom ?
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Just FYI. My friend runs e-racings bodywork. They seem to crash well.
Anyway they cost $325 a set. Do you know anything about these?
http://www.e-racings.com/
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I bought some for an old racebike, its kinda like Hotbodies, but the finish sucks. It takes alot of work to get it nice.

I think used bodywork from a good manufacturer would be a better option than that stuff.
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Just FYI. My friend runs e-racings bodywork. They seem to crash well.
Anyway they cost $325 a set. Do you know anything about these?
http://www.e-racings.com/
Some people have had good luck with them, most have not. Similar to Pit-Ek, the only person I have ever heard very positive feedback has been from Buck, who received excellent customer service and was pleased with the fit.

Here are the issues, and yes, I think Keith is right on target with trying to find good used bodywork in some situations; here's why:

1. The less expensive bodywork companies cut corners with the quality of the fiberglass, and some even use fiberglass mat instead of the fiberglass fabric. This causes issues when the bodywork crashes. A good set will rash or maybe tear a bit- the inferior products will break apart and have multiple fracture points that make repairs a nightmare.

2. They use inferior resins which either make the bodywork too brittle, or too flimsy (usually to the "too brittle" end of the spectrum). This causes issues when the bodywork crashes too in that it causes the fiberglass to shatter upon impact. No exaggeration, I've had people bring me bodywork to fix that was in dozens of pieces and almost impossible to reconstruct.

3. They use inferior plugs (or molds) to make the bodywork, which makes fitment a huge issue. Most of the time, like Hotbodies, it just never will fit, and you've got to live with it.

4. Inferior process to construct the bodywork. The superior brands will use a vacuum system to make sure all of the gel coat and fiberglass layers are void of air pockets and imperfections in the plug, which gives a far superior finish when coupled with the top grade resins and 'glass. There are other aspects to this, but it's more technical than I understand- not that tough, but hard to explain correctly.

5. Gel coat. Gel coat is the one thing that can make or break (literally) the bodywork set. A good gel coat will have a firm but flexible texture, which has to mesh well with the fiberglass and resin of the same characteristics. This is not easy to achieve. Most companies use too much gel coat to compensate for inadequacies of the fiberglass & resin underneath.


I am going to re-write my "bodywork guide" to include some changes since I wrote it two years ago. I'll see if I can get Larry to hook me up with a set of his new stuff so I can include it in the fray. All that said, there are two or three really good sets of bodywork out there that are "the best" with what I have listed above:

1. Attack Performance- bar none, the best stuff on the market, and the least expensive of the top three to boot! They come "ready to paint", with a very nice primer sealer, pre-sanded, no noticeable imperfections on the outside. Constructed with the best 'glass and the best resins. Fit can be at least as good as, and often times better than OEM- believe that!

2. Sharkskinz- industry leader for many years, although there has been fitment issues lately. They are very well made, quality on par with Attack, but require quite a bit of prep to paint. All of the above about Attack is true about Sharkskinz except for the finish aspect and lately, the fit.

3. OPP/ Catalyst Composites/ Cheetah/ Armour Bodies- all can be lumped together. They are the bottom tier of the expensive stuff as far as fit/ quality/ finish. Each have their own issues, but each are good sets of bodywork in their own right.

Here is a link to my old bodywork guide:
http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=46077

I'll do a new one as soon as I have time.
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Good info. Thanks Tom. I was feeling like the e-racings stuff was a little thin to me. My main concern was I want to be able to switch back to the stock skins in the winter months to ride around on the street and keep the race plastic for the summer for track days. So fit and assy time is important to me right now. It might not be later if I decide to just keep my bike as a track only bike and get me another street bike or whatever.
Anyway sounds like the Attack stuff is what I want.
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Here is what is in stock that I can get for yall at cost:

I have in stock a 07/08 Yamaha R1 set, a 04 GSXR 1000 set and 2 07/08 Honda 600rr sets with superbike tails also a Ducati 748-998 set.

This bodywork is really, really good stuff, and is made with the highest quality resins and 'glass. The finish is not that great, you'll have to do a bit of sanding and such to get it "perfect", but that is the painter's problem, right?

Since this is the last remaining stock, it'll ship quickly and be here in about a week.
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too bad for that company....if they would've stuck around a little longer and got to improving the finishing of their products a lil better.....we'd have another top tier bodywork company to deal with.

so after painting and repairing literally everything out there....i'm still gonna say one thing.....

ATTACK PERFORMANCE FTW!!!!! nothing comes close in my book.
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Just FYI. My friend runs e-racings bodywork. They seem to crash well.
Anyway they cost $325 a set. Do you know anything about these?
http://www.e-racings.com/
My experience with e-racings was that it was thin, the fit was only mediocre, and the finish was decent. I didnt have a problem with any of that really, it was a good deal for what I paid (325 shipped) but the stuff doesnt crash worth a . Every piece of it shattered in my last crash, it all had to be thrown away.

Next time around Im getting Attack or Sharkskinz stuff since it should hold up better.
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My experience with e-racings was that it was thin, the fit was only mediocre, and the finish was decent. I didnt have a problem with any of that really, it was a good deal for what I paid (325 shipped) but the stuff doesn't crash worth a . Every piece of it shattered in my last crash, it all had to be thrown away.
That's been my experience too. Here are the vendors that stand out as the worst of the cheapest (there are others two):

E-Racing
Pit-Ek
Godfather
Hotbodies

The funny thing is, Hotbodies still costs over $500 for the set!

All suck for the same reasons I stated above and in my "bodywork guide" (I guess I need to step it up on the re-write).
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ATTACK PERFORMANCE FTW!!!!! nothing comes close in my book.
While I agree with you whole-heartedly (I think I turned you on to Attack, right? ), this Cycleskins bodywork was almost identical except for one thing, and that (as you mentioned) was the finish. The construction and materials, as well as fit and durability was on-par with Attack all the way.
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While I agree with you whole-heartedly (I think I turned you on to Attack, right? ), this Cycleskins bodywork was almost identical except for one thing, and that (as you mentioned) was the finish. The construction and materials, as well as fit and durability was on-par with Attack all the way.
gotta share the credit on that one with Patrick....i wouldn't trade my attack bodywork for 2 sets of sharkskins (maybe, but dont think so)
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