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Old 03-27-2008, 10:46 PM   #21
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:48 PM   #22
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Old 03-28-2008, 05:34 AM   #24
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wouldnt that be illegal? an employer cannot tell you what mode of transportation youre allowed to use to get to work.
Not illegal at all. Goes under code of conduct. We are working on a case similar right now. (cannot post details)

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who owns the parking lot?

"Employee shall represent the company in a positive manner".
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Not illegal at all. Goes under code of conduct. We are working on a case similar right now. (cannot post details)

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"Employee shall represent the company in a positive manner".
I don't think he meant ride it like you stole it in the parking lot. And I doubt he was able to hit 153mph in the lot. I agree with your comment if it is on their property. Had a similar case at my last company, guy didn't clock out for lunch, hopped on someone elses dirtbike, said he was a good rider, it was one of the 400+cc bikes, flipped it, and now he is crippled mentally. Has the mentality of an 8 yr old and he is 30. Did it on the clock, in the company's parking lot. But if Azylum is doing this on the street (public property) I think it is illegal to fire him for THAT right? Now I feel they could easily watch him closely, and he better walk a perfect line. Any reason to fire him other than that I would get him. It is a financial risk like said before, and I would look for the first chance to LEGALLY give him the boot. Don't forget Azylum, anything you do to get hurt that causes a major claim raises the cost for insurance for the entire company. And the comment about how he pays for his insurance, he pays a very SMALL percentage of his actual insurance cost. Both sides have a good argument, but yea they should never be able to tell you what you can or can't drive to work.
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:22 AM   #26
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F' em, I ride sane and Nuts out just depends whats blastin through my MP3 player. if they fire you cause your a Financial risk remember that you pay your insurance just like the next guy, They gona fire him too cause he likes Sky Diving? I think jumping out of a perfectly good air plane is the true definition of a Dumb . I got a good lawyer if they pull the trump and Fire you! I would High Chair right next to the HD riders and give em the bird with a smile!

Scratch the last line, But would still be awesome!
TX is a right to work state. They can fire him for any reason at all. And they don't NEED a reason to do it.

He is aking for the rips- he knew they would come, but he was ranting. We all rant, and except for No Fear I'm willing to bet we all speed sometimes- just us smarter ones don't post speeds on this forum.
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i dont agree with the racing, but be honest lotta people on here ride like they stole it, but im on ur side dude!! i just dont want to be mean
+1 ive seen many o people get up on thier soap box and preach while on the forums but get them on the street and its a different story....that has been my experiance. Not being hypocritical (sp) is something you dont see alot of.

As for the story i think while showing up to work people see you come and go and if you ride like an it will reflect on the company that hired you to represent them. I know personaly people have mentioned that they have seen me on the road in and around work. only negative comment i got was where i parked and im sorry but i dont want my stolen so ill park it where its safe.
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:46 AM   #28
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I went 173 the other day...how bout that, ?
I don't think that is the point. I don't think anyone on here is saying they are perfect riders. The point is he is openly talking about acting irresponsible on the road AND complaining that his employer has a problem with it. Its not OK to race ninjas at 153mph, whether anyone has done it or not. And it is OK for his employer to be concerned.
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I think the real issue is that some people are acting crazy and doing things that are illegal in front of the place of business. The only rational thing to do is talk with the police and inform them of this issue. Whether they work for the company or not doesn't matter.

But a company saying you cannot ride to work, I do not think that is legal. It is a legal road vehicle. They don't have to provide separate parking but most will just to cut down on the one bike, one space thing.
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I don't think that is the point. I don't think anyone on here is saying they are perfect riders. The point is he is openly talking about acting irresponsible on the road AND complaining that his employer has a problem with it. Its not OK to race ninjas at 153mph, whether anyone has done it or not. And it is OK for his employer to be concerned.
What a person does on a public freeway is of no concern to his employer. Is he on company time? No.
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Not illegal at all. Goes under code of conduct. We are working on a case similar right now. (cannot post details)

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who owns the parking lot?

"Employee shall represent the company in a positive manner".
Can you show me where in the code of conduct is says that it is not illegal to tell someone what they can drive to work? Unless they are going to provide vehicles or reinbursments, then I don't see where they can tell them not to ride their bikes anymore. He did not act an on the companies property nor when he parks his bike to get into work. Or does he?
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Dang..I got ripped... so what if I speed, pop wheelies and race, burn out..its not on company time or near it.... its just me, say what u want, im being honest. A lot of ppl on this forum are the same way..... to each his own, we all love riding. Some like cruising, others like racing, others like leaning on curves.... as long as ur careful, I hope the best for all on here who ride.
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Dang..I got ripped... so what if I speed, pop wheelies and race, burn out..its not on company time or near it.... its just me, say what u want, im being honest. A lot of ppl on this forum are the same way..... to each his own, we all love riding. Some like cruising, others like racing, others like leaning on curves.... as long as ur careful, I hope the best for all on here who ride.
let he with out sin cast the first stone..........

that doesnt really apply on here though
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Dang..I got ripped... so what if I speed, pop wheelies and race, burn out..its not on company time or near it.... its just me, say what u want, im being honest. A lot of ppl on this forum are the same way..... to each his own, we all love riding. Some like cruising, others like racing, others like leaning on curves.... as long as ur careful, I hope the best for all on here who ride.
The only difference between you and "some of them" is that you're not scared to say how you ride.
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What a person does on a public freeway is of no concern to his employer. Is he on company time? No.
Agree, you are missing my point. If you were an employer that was having to pay for his insurance, would you not be concerned about the financial burden if (or going by the saying its not if you go down, but when) or when he goes down you will be liable? They have no right to tell him what he can or cannot drive. And they can't control what he does off company property, but he has made it known to enough people that the employer found out, he IS in fact being irresponsible. I don't blame them for being concerned. They get to shell out thousands of dollars to protect his well being while he is out doing this. I'm just showing both sides. I myself have done the same thing, doesn't make it right.

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Dang..I got ripped... so what if I speed, pop wheelies and race, burn out..its not on company time or near it.... its just me, say what u want, im being honest. A lot of ppl on this forum are the same way..... to each his own, we all love riding. Some like cruising, others like racing, others like leaning on curves.... as long as ur careful, I hope the best for all on here who ride.
I'm just saying they have a right to be concerned due to the financial side. Not that they have a right to take any kind of action.
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Dang..I got ripped... so what if I speed, pop wheelies and race, burn out..its not on company time or near it.... its just me, say what u want, im being honest. A lot of ppl on this forum are the same way..... to each his own, we all love riding.
I'd imagine it's the fact they know your on the same streets as them, acting an , putting them at potential additional risk.
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Agree, you are missing my point. If you were an employer that was having to pay for his insurance, would you not be concerned about the financial burden if (or going by the saying its not if you go down, but when) or when he goes down you will be liable? They have no right to tell him what he can or cannot drive. And they can't control what he does off company property, but he has made it known to enough people that the employer found out, he IS in fact being irresponsible. I don't blame them for being concerned. They get to shell out thousands of dollars to protect his well being while he is out doing this. I'm just showing both sides. I myself have done the same thing, doesn't make it right.
Thats not thier right to be concerned about what he does on his own time. He pays a premium monthly for the insurance I'm sure. I doubt there is any legal action that could be taken in a case like this. I passed my boss at 110 jacked up on a 3rd gear staggered a few weeks back....
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There is no question about it, it is your employers parking lot, building, and image. If they don't want bikes, riders, Harley image, big monster 4x4 trucks, or drag racers then they don't have to have them. They can tell you what you can and can't bring into the parking lot and if you can be employed by them and the image that they want from you.
They can cut your medical benifits and insurance b/c of your off time activities.
They can tell you not to ride your vehicle (bike, truck, race car, etc.) to their establishment and then fire you if you do. They can tell you to cut your hair and cover your tats and then fire you if you don't.


Your options are simply whether or not you work (and represent) that company.
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