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Old 03-25-2008, 01:11 PM   #1
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I just bought another bike from a member here. I haven't decided if I want to put insurance on it and make it street legal or just use it for the occasional TD yet. My question is that if I do decide to only use it for trackdays how do I go about transferring the title into my name? Last few times I have registered a bike they made you have insurance first, if I do go only track with it I don't want to waste my money putting liability insurance on it.

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dont title it if that's the case.....just keep the title in a very safe place.

i've had my track bike for over a year now and still haven't titled it. i just keep a copy of the title with me when driving it around....just in case questions are asked if i get pulled over.
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dont title it if that's the case.....just keep the title in a very safe place.

i've had my track bike for over a year now and still haven't titled it. i just keep a copy of the title with me when driving it around....just in case questions are asked if i get pulled over.
But I plan to sell it eventually, so it's either get it transferred into my name now or leave it in the other guy's name and x-fer it before I sell it then also add the $10 later fee :/:
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But I plan to sell it eventually, so it's either get it transferred into my name now or leave it in the other guy's name and x-fer it before I sell it then also add the $10 later fee :/:
i plan to sell mine eventually also....but as a track bike. and most people that buy trackbikes will not care that you haven't transfered the title yet, because most likely they don't plan to either.

if it is a streetbike right now.....you might as well transfer it. i bought my track bike out of state, so it wasn't worth buying headlights, tail lights, mirrors, horn, etc. just to get an inspection and out of state form to title it in my name. i'll just sell it to the next guy/gal and let him worry bout titling and stuff if he/she wanted to.
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i plan to sell mine eventually also....but as a track bike. and most people that buy trackbikes will not care that you haven't transfered the title yet, because most likely they don't plan to either.

if it is a streetbike right now.....you might as well transfer it. i bought my track bike out of state, so it wasn't worth buying headlights, tail lights, mirrors, horn, etc. just to get an inspection and out of state form to title it in my name. i'll just sell it to the next guy/gal and let him worry bout titling and stuff if he/she wanted to.
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What Tony said. I sold mine not titled to me. If it is for the track nobody cares and if the individual wants to title it no big deal either.
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i plan to sell mine eventually also....but as a track bike. and most people that buy trackbikes will not care that you haven't transfered the title yet, because most likely they don't plan to either.

if it is a streetbike right now.....you might as well transfer it. i bought my track bike out of state, so it wasn't worth buying headlights, tail lights, mirrors, horn, etc. just to get an inspection and out of state form to title it in my name. i'll just sell it to the next guy/gal and let him worry bout titling and stuff if he/she wanted to.
Yeah the guy I bought it from it was his street ride, I guess I'll pony up a month of insurance $$ just so I can get the title done.
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:02 PM   #8
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They just want to see proof of insurance you dont have to have insurance on the bike itself just yet. Tell them that you just bought it and will be getting insurance once its titled. I did this on my first bike.
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Isn't it possible to transfer title without registering it? Registration is when insurance comes into play. You should be able to own an uninsured vehicle, just not operate it on the road. If you don't title it, the state can't collect their cut.
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Isn't it possible to transfer title without registering it? Registration is when insurance comes into play. You should be able to own an uninsured vehicle, just not operate it on the road. If you don't title it, the state can't collect their cut.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:18 PM   #11
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In my experience the tax office rarely gives the same answer twice. But I have transfered ownership without registering. I think they make you lable it "for off road use only". Then when you do want to get it on the road you have to get a green sheet and jump through a few hoops.
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You should not have to register the bike to get the title transferred. You will have to pay sales tax on the sale amount when getting the title transferred. At least that is what I did when I bought my RC51.

If it is just a track bike, get the title and a bill of sale stating the sellers name and your name. That way you have documentation that the bike changed owners. If you go to sell it and want to have the title in your name, you can still transfer it after the 30 days they give you, you just have to pay a penalty ($10 I think). It says on the back of the title. That is what I have done with my past two track bikes, and haven't had any issues.
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I did the same with my trackbike. I transferred the title to my name but did not register the bike. They put 'Off Road Use Only' on the title. I only had to pay the title fee and the taxes.
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:29 PM   #14
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Okay, I went to the local tax office and this is basically what they told me. I can't use the insurance from one of my other bikes to register this one, that works for cars but apparantely is not applicable for bikes. If I want to title it only w/o registering they will take away my plates, etc. I don't want to go through all that hassle so I'm just going to register & title it. My question is: Is there anyway to get insurance for a day just so I can register it? I'm sure I could start a policy with my local agent then just cancel it but that doesn't seem ethical. Is there a way to beat the system whilst staying within the rules?

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