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Old 03-20-2008, 06:19 AM   #1
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Help Understanding the Pilot Roads "2CT"

I understand the portion where 2CT stands for 2 Compounds in the tire. This would mean there is a harder compound in the center of the tire in relation to the side of the tire.

When Comparing the Pilot Roads with the Pilot Roads 2CT, does this mean the Pilot Roads 2CT will have:

a) Harder compound in the center, and same compound on the sides (in relation to Pilot Roads)?

b) Same compound in the center, but softer on the sides (in relation to Pilot Roads)?

c) Other ______________________________ (you fill in the blank)

Im trying to decide between the 2 tires. If the 2CT has a harder compound in the center, I think I wil go with the 2CT tire so I can get extra mileage out of it. If the 2CT has the same compound in the center but softer on the sides, I will go with the Pilot Road because I'm not much of an angle leaner just yet. I'm still getting seat time to become a more aware rider.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:20 AM   #2
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Pilot Roads are the same compound throughout. Pilot Road 2's have a stickier ring around the edges, but the center is a harder compound.

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because I'm not much of an angle leaner just yet. I'm still getting seat time to become a more aware rider.
Like I said in the other thread, I'd recommend stickier tires for your first set. Stickier = more traction for stopping, accelerating, and (when you get there) turning.

If you are leaning toward Michelins, get the PP front and rear. Then when the PP rear wears out, go with a PR or PR2 on the rear and leave the PP on the front. FYI I've put about 3000 miles on my PP's and the rear is only about half way to the wear bar in the center. You will be surprised how far you will come in comfort with the bike and leaning it over in a few thousand miles.

Let me ask you this. Would you rather go with a harder tire because you want to get a few more miles out of it and risk overwhelming the harder compound causing a slide and a crash or would you rather go with a stickier tire that will last a while but not quite as long but will give you an extra margin of safety with more grip. I'm not saying that the PR's are like ice, they are good tires. I'm just saying that the PP's are stickier and that = more safety. Those two little contact patches are all you have to control the bike. Why wouldn't you want those to be as sticky as possible until you are familiar with your capabilities and that of the bike?

I will tell you right now, that there will be times when you will need all the grip that tire has to offer to help you avoid debris, a turning car, negotiate a decreasing radius turn, etc and you will not want to say to yourself, "It just might have been a good idea to go with the stickier tires." But that's just me.
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If you're a "Michelin" man, then get the Pilot Powers. If you're in the air, get the Pirelli Diablo Corsa. I would stay away from 2CT and Corsa 3 in the beginning for you. As you develop as a rider, you will understand tire characteristics more and be able to define your needs.
My reasoning behind my suggestions is this: the PP and Corsa are going to be very neutral (decent life decent traction--good enough for you to start learning).
Good luck, choosing tires is like choosing women. There's another model on every corner, and they all promise something different while basically looking the same.
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get the roads. quit thinking so much a RIDE!
Cant do much riding with the front tire basically gone
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:17 AM   #6
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I think ill go with the Pilot Powers. Can anyone recommend me where I could get them from for a good price?
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I think ill go with the Pilot Powers. Can anyone recommend me where I could get them from for a good price?
i don't why i'm wasting my time., but POWERs are way over your skill and "need" get the roads. they'll last 2x as long.

if nothing else, get the powers for ft, and roads for the rear.
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I think ill go with the Pilot Powers.
Good middle-of-the-road choice dood...
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Be very careful with sticky tyres,
generally the more sticky they are the more of a liability they are when cold.

New riders mostly don't ride hard enough to generate heat which is what they need to operate as designed.

I'm with 07SLVRCBR, Pirelli Diablo's or Diablo Corsa's are hard to beat and breed confidence.
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I dont know much about tires either ... what is the difference between Pilot Road 2ct and the Pilot Power 2ct?
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I dont know much about tires either ... what is the difference between Pilot Road 2ct and the Pilot Power 2ct?
There's no Road 2ct, only the Power.
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I have Metzler Z6s on my bike and took those to the track . got some laughs but I'll be laughing all the way to the bank

and NO I didn't have ANY problems riding on the track with those tires. I was surprised to say the least because I did have doubt that I wouldnt' be able to ride hard


yup, have run plenty of trackdays w/ my sport-toruing tires. even hadem where the rears were all chewed up, rode it on the street and they got back to normal.
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There's no Road 2ct, only the Power.
Then what are they selling here?

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There's no Road 2ct, only the Power.
Might want to check out the manufacturers website: clicky

It's not called a Pilot Road 2ct. It's called the Pilot Road2. It still uses 2ct tech though.
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I stuck a 2CT on the rear of my FZ6. I was great on dry pavement but was very poor on wet pavement. But it lasted well.
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get the roads. quit thinking so much a RIDE!
+1 ^^ man just go buy the darn things... u can afford a pair... how much more research u gonna do.. is this the 3 rd thread on tires for u or wat.. hehe i just purchased 2ct's awesome tires..btw.
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I have the 2 CT' and I love em, get them and effin ride
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I'm getting the ROAD 2CT for touring + better grip in corners and rain - those are the features anyway... Supposedly they won't flatten so fast because of the harder middle. I guess it's new - on back order.... :(
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I understand the portion where 2CT stands for 2 Compounds in the tire. This would mean there is a harder compound in the center of the tire in relation to the side of the tire.

When Comparing the Pilot Roads with the Pilot Roads 2CT, does this mean the Pilot Roads 2CT will have:

a) Harder compound in the center, and same compound on the sides (in relation to Pilot Roads)?

b) Same compound in the center, but softer on the sides (in relation to Pilot Roads)?

c) Other ______________________________ (you fill in the blank)

Im trying to decide between the 2 tires. If the 2CT has a harder compound in the center, I think I wil go with the 2CT tire so I can get extra mileage out of it. If the 2CT has the same compound in the center but softer on the sides, I will go with the Pilot Road because I'm not much of an angle leaner just yet. I'm still getting seat time to become a more aware rider.
Pilot Roads technically are not 2CT, that is reserved for Pilot Power...
Pilot Road2 is a dual compound tire with the Pilot Road compound in the middle and the Pilot Power compound on the sides...

Here are some links to better explain...
Pilot Power
Pilot Power 2CT
Pilot Road
Pilot Road 2

I thought we discussed this earlier?
Previous Thread

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The setup I recommend is the Pilot Power in the front and the Pilot Roads in the rear. This is a good setup for the type of riding you do and also for some curves.... keep us posted of what you decide...
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