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Old 03-19-2008, 09:34 AM   #1
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Track Day Oil Life

How long does everyone go with their oil changes while doing trackdays?

Do you change the oil after every track day weekend, every couple, etc?


With running Motul synthetic I am just curious about the frequency of the oil changes with little to no street riding and instead doing trackdays.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:46 AM   #2
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every third to fourth track day is what I do
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i change mine every 2-3 trackdays.....

like patrick always says "oil is cheap, engines are expensive.."
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every couple,but once again at very beggining of the season.
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I change mine about every other trackday depending on how much track time I get @ each event
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Every other track day, and after every race weekend.

I will change my oil directly after a track day if I have a race that weekend, and then after the race weekend again.

Just track days I do every other weekend (even though my lubricants sponsor says I'm wasting his product... ).
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i change mine every 2-3 trackdays.....

like patrick always says "oil is cheap, engines are expensive.."
+1...plus dropping motors and replacing them is a PITA!
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+1...plus dropping motors and replacing them is a PITA!
BS Danny- that's not NEARLY as hard as paying for the rebuild!
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BS Danny- that's not NEARLY as hard as paying for the rebuild!
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BS Danny- that's not NEARLY as hard as paying for the rebuild!
forget a rebuild, I'll opt to find a used good running motor first...either way. I feel oil changes should not be done sparingly (sp?) on ANY motorized vehicle, equipment, etc. I probably overdue it on all motors including mowers, tractors, cars, motrocycle, etc. but I do think my optimistic view will pay off in the long run. Worse case scenario I spend a few extra hundred bucks in oil changes during my lifetime.
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Oil every two trackdays, filter every 4
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6-7 trackdays, I hardly keep it on the rev limit. I ride the track like I ride the street. I put only about 100 miles so or less at the track. Having fresh oil helps but it doesn't matter when it's time to blow it will blow.
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Heres a question... When do you switch to synthetic?

I've got 1,000 street miles and 700 track miles... I think its about time.

Opinions, anyone?
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When you figure that a typical trackday is less than 150 miles, I think if you are using quality oil and filters you should be able to go for at least 5 trackdays between changes.

I know we think we are straining our engines but, we are using them in a way that is within the mfr's safe limits. They are made to be revved high and they tolerate it well.

That said I often change after 3 TDs, cuz Patrick is right, if an oil change will help delay the explosion between my legs, it's worth it.
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every other trackday if i do the 30 minute sessions compared to the 10-20 minute sessions.
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Heres a question... When do you switch to synthetic?

I've got 1,000 street miles and 700 track miles... I think its about time.

Opinions, anyone?
The guy who rebuilt one of my motors said to wait a couple thousand miles before going to synthetic. So I did and it seems to be working well. When he tore this same motor down he said the cylinder had not even broken in and everything else looked like brand new. I had started using synthetic at about 700miles. So this time I waited.
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oil and breaking in motors

I would imagine after 1000 street miles and 700 track day miles that your engine should be broken in.
The rings should be fully seated and the other parts in the motor should be ready for the synthetic oil.
Oil debates often make me laugh.
One thing for sure, synthetic oil runs cooler. Sounds cooler too...
Why have organic, if you can have synthetic?

I judge how long my oil stays in my bike based on hours of usage.
4 hours or more of track time and I change the oil.

Filters are cheaper than engines as well.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:18 PM   #20
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i change mine every 2-3 trackdays.....

like patrick always says "oil is cheap, engines are expensive.."

Yep!

I do mine every track day or race weekend. Much like Mac, if the engine has 4 or so hours of track time on it, I change it.

As far as synthetic, most of todays SS bikes have hard chrome rings and finely finished nikasil plated cylinders.
Synthetic oil can inhibit / prevent the ring seating process.
I typically recommend waiting 3-4 oil changes before swapping to synthetic on a street bike, roughly 7-8000 miles.
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