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Old 03-17-2008, 06:53 PM   #1
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wanted to learn how to do one, but i'm on a 250... i've seen videos of people popping the front tire up on a 250, but never anyone getting any amount of distance... would it be bad for my bike to try and practice on it? should i start on something else (like a dirtbike) ? and is it even comparable to doing a wheelie on a bigger bike?
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:40 PM   #3
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First make sure you're ready for the conseq of a mistake. Go to the video and pics and watch what happens. If you have to ask how to do a wheelie on a forum right, maybe you aren't ready? Wearing full gear, spine protector, armor, riding pants with CE armor, riding boots, full helmet?

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/New_Riders


If you still want to do it: depending on your bike: read this:
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Read the post by Woot, it explains it, and he knows what he is talking about
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Quote by Woot, admin @ ninja250.com

First the difference between a power wheelie and a clutch up wheelie. The 250 doesn't have the power to lift the front wheel very easily. To get enough snap to lift the front wheel requires either clutch while moving, or stupid throttle when not moving. The former being the somewhat safer way, the later being plain stupid.

So you ride along at some speed, you pull in the throttle, give it a healthy amount of throttle and let the clutch out. She'll jerk forward the first time and each time you do it you give it more and more.

The problem is the balance point at low speeds is very high, at higher speed it is much lower. On the 250 high speed wheelies are difficult because you just don't have the power. That means you have two strikes against you, first you need to get all the power at once and snap the bike up to the balance point harder than a larger bike, AND because you have to go so slowly the balance point is very high.

This means you have a REALLY high chance of flipping a 250 wheelie. Much higher than on a higher powered bike (in the proper hands!!! In a novices hands the 600 can spectacularly go over backwards with too much throttle and too low a speed)

So - yes you can wheelie the 250.

At low speed the balance point is dangerously high for a beginner.

No matter how you do the wheelie you will slam the front end down... you way a fair amount so it is even more wear on the front end than when a smaller person does it.

If you want to learn to wheelie - master riding first - then buy a stunt bike, buy really really good gear, start off small and perfect clutch and brake control.... have fun

Now a little power loft is another thing... the 250 would do that under really heavy throttle at really low speed (with no clutch). The 600s will loft pretty easily and controllably at about 6" off the pavement under heavy throttle. That's not quite the same degree of lunacy.
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Don't waste your time on a 50
are you serious.... a fiddy taught me just about everything i know about wheelies along with the people around here who teach people fiddy skillz
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so hold off on the 250 wheelies? that's fine with me, i think it would be fun, but not going to risk it from what he's said heh, maybe when i upgrade in the summer
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so hold off on the 250 wheelies? that's fine with me, i think it would be fun, but not going to risk it from what he's said heh, maybe when i upgrade in the summer
i personally think you'd be smarter to wheelie the 250 instead of a 600
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and wut do u kno about wheelies mr bob?
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IF YOU THINK YOUR NOT GOING TO LOOP THAT BISH ONE DAY THEN YOU ARE WRONG !!
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IF YOU THINK YOUR NOT GOING TO LOOP THAT BISH ONE THEN YOU ARE WRONG !!
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IF YOU THINK YOUR NOT GOING TO LOOP THAT BISH ONE DAY THEN YOU ARE WRONG !!
i dont loop cuz i learned back brake on a fiddy
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Fiddys suc! Get something with a clutch like a crf/xr100, 80, ttr 125 or a klx 125.
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me up with me one night and ill show to how to wheelie ur 250 easy
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i'd be up for learning to wheelie when i have a spare stunt bike someday. i really want to learn the control you guys have, even if i'm not doing it on public streets, i think it will make me a better rider when i know how to push my bike..... but i'm waiting for my stunt bike, not my ninja 250, and not my only transportation!

So is it the general consensus that starting stunt work on a light dual sport/dirt bike etc, is better and safer, before you jump to a 600cc sport bike? Supermotard, or something like that?

I'm interested, and someday when things work out want to learn.... i just don't want a 400+ lbs of superbike falling on me on my first try, would prefer something lighter
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So for someone who's just learning to ride ( me ) how long should you ride before deciding to learn how to do wheelies???? (Other than just being comfortable on the bike itself)
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complete sentences guys would be nice... actually helpful.. this is a forum, not a ghetto chat room.....
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