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Old 03-17-2008, 08:18 AM   #1
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Exclamation TIPS ON FUEL

Got this from a friend...interesting read

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon..

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in
San Jose , CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.. ..your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work,every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:00 AM   #2
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how much would i actually save in filling up everytime i went to half full.... my times worth money too, so if i'm stopping every 80-100 miles insated of 180, its a lot more incovient... Are you talking about a whole 1/4 of my tank evaporating.... cause if its 1/100 then the time spent worrying about it could be spent riding...

Also HOW much would you guys on a 4.8 gallon tank i'd fill up more when i fill when its cold? Save a penny or 2, or a 1/2 penny?

I'm interested, but just seems to be a bit overkill.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:00 AM   #3
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Good info here.
Do you think it would really benefit on the much smaller scale of average automobiles vs. the huge tanks you work with?
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:23 AM   #4
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Probably wouldn't be worth much on a bike, but it could add up in your cage though!
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how much would i actually save in filling up everytime i went to half full.... my times worth money too, so if i'm stopping every 80-100 miles insated of 180, its a lot more incovient... Are you talking about a whole 1/4 of my tank evaporating.... cause if its 1/100 then the time spent worrying about it could be spent riding...

Also HOW much would you guys on a 4.8 gallon tank i'd fill up more when i fill when its cold? Save a penny or 2, or a 1/2 penny?

I'm interested, but just seems to be a bit overkill.
the answers to all your questions:

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Old 03-17-2008, 10:05 AM   #6
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that is useful info to use for our cars, I don't see it making an impact on 2 wheels though
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:39 PM   #7
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Cliff's Notes:

There "might" be a miniscule savings from some of the tips but overall it wouldn't be worth the time or inconvenience to bother with them.
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My time is definitely worth more than the incredible small savings I would get.

If you want to save money on gas without inconveniencing yourself, just make some small driving habit changes. Don't run out for each and every errand. For example you need to mail off some bills today and tomorrow you want to go to the grocery store. Darn post office is on the way to the grocery store. Do it in one trip instead of one.
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Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.


With a storage capacity of that size I can see where these tips make quite a difference. Also, just like any other cost saving measure, if this were to become a daily habit over the long run the savings could be substantial.
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very interesting
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:43 AM   #11
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very interesting - and all so very urban legend...
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, every penny counts.
I'm spending over $100/week just driving to and from work.

wish I woulda kept that ninja 250 afterall.
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I've always been told to avoid gas stations where there is an 18 wheeler re fueling the tanks... I keep on rolling
The filtration systems in place now are excellent. Don't worry about floaties in your gas.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:42 AM   #14
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yeah i have read about this before. real kewl
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I THINK ILL SPLURGE ON THE 31 DOLLAR SAVINGS A YEAR AND FILL UP WHEN EVER I NEED TO LOL
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