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Old 03-16-2008, 07:00 PM   #1
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Tire Suggestions?

Just completed my first trackday on Saturday at MSRH and I am leaning more and more towards selling off my street parts and going to track only. I will have a few more trackdays before I commit to it however.

Learning from yesterday I know I can improve my body positioning in a number of turns to help out, but I did feel the tires slipping around on a few of the turns and into the the launch. This did improve a lot after adjusting the forks to get rid of some bad bobbles, but some slipping was still there in the diamonds edge etc.

Looking towards getting new tires when my Pilot Powers are finished what should I be looking at? I'll talk to Patrick about this too, but just want to get a head start looking. I was thinking about the BT-002 but after seeing some of the issues Scott had with his Saturday made me curious (delamination?).

I ran between 2:09 to 2:04 my first session in intermediate and think I might have stayed near 2:06 to 2:04 generally for the rest of the day without knowing the true times later in the day.

Sorry for running on..... Tire suggestions? I want a reasonable priced tire that fits with my ability to ride, but want to have some confidence as I try to improve my riding. Looking forward to seeing my videos to work on other areas once I see them.

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Old 03-16-2008, 07:19 PM   #2
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Another set of Pilots would treat you fine as a novice. Just stick to the major brands, it's hard to find a bad tire.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:27 PM   #3
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BRIDGESTONE!

The problems you mentioned with Scott's tires sounds like a fairly isolated event. There are far too many people running the 'stones without issue, myself included.

The Bt-002 Racing Street is a great tire for someone your speed and will offer plenty of grip for longer than a race tire will without tire warmers. For you, this is where I would start.

The Bt-002 Pro versions (what I use) are really nice. Very grippy. Predictable traction. More than you really need right now, but would offer a very nice cushion of traction in case you get in over your head.

Hit up John Hutchinson (Kawi Jm) at South Central Race Center. He'll hook you up. Pm him here or call him at 281-703-0296
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I'm not a big tire guy, but i ran 1:55s-1:57s on hard compound street bridgestones and had no complaints, but definitely not a comfortable feeling...

today i was running constant 1:52s on my new bridgestone BT002s (street) and things felt awesome! and there is still alot of tire left. i'm thinking i could get 3 track days out of a pair of these at my pace. at a lower pace with less heating and less stress i'm sure you could get alot more time on them.

just my .02 for ya. hit up patrick and see what he says, he is the expert.
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Old 03-16-2008, 09:07 PM   #5
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i run in the 40's with bt002 pro's. i love em, they are nicely priced and offer plenty of grip. they also have great wear life.

i've ran bt002 pro's and michelin power races....and the bt002 seems to be the better choice for me.
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What happend to scotts tires ??? can you explain


I have 2cts and will be switching over to BT-002s in a month or less. Hear to many good things about them. If I decide to go all track I will just go with there all out race tire.

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I can't give the proper description of it, but the left side of his rear tire was ripping off in areas. The tires were warm and the track was warm. He was following me most of the time so he wasn't pushing it hard either. Just looked like there was an outer layer of the rubber peeling off of an internal layer. Many others mentioned it was isolated included Scott himself. Just makes me curious as I am new into everything and looking at options.
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I ran both the Michelin 2CTs and the Bridgestone Race/Street on my '061000RR... 2CTs were good, but the RSs were ALOT better (even did 2 novice races on 'em).

I just switched this weekend to the PRO's... absolutely amazing! The tires perform well beyond my abilities, but I too wanted the extra confidence/security of uber-sticky shoes...

As a side note, Kawi Jm (John of South Central Race Center) is a good guy to deal with... that was ultimately the deciding factor for me, since its hard to pick a bad race tire these days.
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Jet,

I can't give the proper description of it, but the left side of his rear tire was ripping off in areas. The tires were warm and the track was warm. He was following me most of the time so he wasn't pushing it hard either. Just looked like there was an outer layer of the rubber peeling off of an internal layer. Many others mentioned it was isolated included Scott himself. Just makes me curious as I am new into everything and looking at options.
suspension set up? :dontknow:
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michilin ftmfw. just an fyi they have new race tires coming out this year too
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suspension set up? :dontknow:
Naw, it was a few big tears but only on the left side and only in two or three spots... they were about 1mm deep and it did look like the outer layer peeled off the inner.

I thought he may have gone over a few rocks while hard on the gas, really dunno.
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Jet,

I can't give the proper description of it, but the left side of his rear tire was ripping off in areas. The tires were warm and the track was warm. He was following me most of the time so he wasn't pushing it hard either. Just looked like there was an outer layer of the rubber peeling off of an internal layer. Many others mentioned it was isolated included Scott himself. Just makes me curious as I am new into everything and looking at options.
Sounds like cold tear.
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I used bt 002 streets my first track day. Gripped like duct tape i dont think i slid it out once. No idea what my times were, but i thought i was cruising along. Hit up javi he gets crazy deals on tires.
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I have been on Mich power race DOT and slick,Pirelli slicks, and Stones BT002 Pro's. I prefer the stones over the others by far. Great grip and seem to last. I had 4-5 good days running 1:45-:50 pace at MSRH on the set I just took off. And the best bag for your buck too!

Can't wait for the BT003's to get here..
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