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Old 03-15-2008, 10:34 PM   #1
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Question Help me decide...track bike?

I am in the market for something to ride primarily on track days. It won't be financed so I don't have to worry about a possible/maybe inevitable crash at the track. I have another bike to ride on the street or going to work.

It would be nice (but not necessary) if this bike was street legal too. It seems that most of the 06+ bikes are going to be out of the price range that I want to spend. I have owned mostly Suzuki in the past but have been considering Kawasaki too. Yamaha hasn't really turned me on but maybe I'm missing something. I really want to get a 750 but they seem more difficult to find and usually more expensive. A 600 would probably do the trick. I don't have any real interest in a liter bike. It is unlikely I would run anything other than a DOT tire on the bike.

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Do I need to just take the plunge and get a full blown track setup?

Should I just get a super-cheap POS and spend the rest of the money on track days or should I stretch a little and spend the money on something later model that I won't have to work on continuously?

GSXR

Are the changes (brakes, frame/weight, power) worth the difference in price to get a 2004-05 model?

Would the 2002-03 bikes be a better bargain?

Kawasaki

Have I just missed the boat all of these years by not riding a Kawasaki?

Can I get the go fast goodies for about the same money and have the same selection?

Are there any inherent benefits/drawbacks to the Kawasaki that I should know about?

Is there a big difference between the 636 and the ZX6R?

Yamaha???




I need opinions here. I want something that I can ride and grow with. Feel free to throw out ideas and suggestions.

Thanks for your help!
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get an sv650 that's already setup for track (with suspension and other goodies)....you should be able to find them for about $2500-3500.....

after you're done with it, and have some experience.....sell it back for the same amount, and get the bike you want!
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I did consider the SV650. My last two bikes have been bigger V-twins and they are a good option. The hardest part of learning to ride them on the track was mastering maintenance throttle in corners. This was especially true with the Tiller. If you weren't extremely precise, engine braking and torque would upset the chassis very quickly.

After riding my wife's GSXR 600, I have been leaning toward an inline.

The SV does seem like a good bang for the buck. Hmmm... Maybe another look is in order.
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SV650 FTW
The SV will be cheaper to buy and operate. Plus you will learn more and faster on the SV. It may be the best track bike there is.

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I think getting a dedicated track bike is a great idea if you plan to keep it only for the track. You can get some killer deals from racer forums. I would not go and buy a new bike to convert. You can get a great deal on 02 gsxr 600 etc. I know of some people who got something like that for less than 2K, and it was all set up with suspension, and a ton of extra parts too.

No need getting an expensive bike if it is going to get pushed.

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Old 03-15-2008, 11:40 PM   #6
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Personally.....I didn't like the 600's after having Litre bikes.....even though friends of mine were just as fast or FASTER with 600's. And having $4-6k sitting there dedicted to the track just didn't sit well with me..........FWIW.
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The SV is on the table now. Anyone else have ideas on what to consider?
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All of the inline 600,s and triumph 675 are great bikes, and while I agree the sv are a hoot, they just dont do it for me, I guess, like Clyde after riding liter+ bikes for years I,m just spoiled to all that power, even tho I,m sure there is no way I could use it all properely, they sure make me feel fast, and having fun is what its all about, I like feeling that surge of power when u roll it on or snap it on, but really its all about what U want and can handle, lets ask Tony what he thinks, he is a crazy fast rider, especially on a 600, but a 1k bites a little harder, whatever U get have fun and be safe
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I'd love a nice 675

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Im a Kawi guy. I raced and '00 ZX6R from '01 to '04. Then I raced and '03 and '04 636. They were great. Then I got an '05 and it was even better. Last year we had an '06 and it was great as well.
At the end of the year we got an '07 ZX6R and we were worried about a loss in power since it was 599cc. The motor made .7 hp more than the 636. But the torque was down a little. But the chasis was WAY better then the 636. Corner entry was soo smooth and stable it made the bike a blast to ride. We will be on the same '07 this weekend and Ill have mine built for a backup bike and sprint bike.
But all the current bikes are more than capable of doing a great job on the track.
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don't get a bike and convert like the other guys say you spend more. buy one already set up. there was a 2005 r6 with no title but a bill of sale for 2500 on craigslist the other day. not saying that's a good starter track bike just using it as a example.
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The SV is on the table now. Anyone else have ideas on what to consider?
Nothing else should be considered
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if you want to improve your riding ability the most, an SV is most likely your best bet. You'll focus more on your braking and cornering which I feel is the important part of riding.
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If you're interested in a TLS, I've been thinking of putting mine up for sale.

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Not so much "on the table" as "in the garage"
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Well, I did what I knew I should do. I bought Racer X's SV650. It is in the garage right now. I almost changed my mind at the last minute but decided it was a good choice. Room to grow, good price, a few track goodies on it, no worries if it gets dropped.

The deciding factor was that Sassy Chassis can use it for her track days too. I will still get something else down the road but this should be a great bike for me right now.

Thanks for all of the help and insight. I am looking forward to getting it on the track next weekend.
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Oh man.You really screwed the pooch now. What a HUGE mistake.






J/K You'll like it and prolly learn more than you expected. Everybody says they make awesome trackbikes.

At the end of this T/D season I may be selling my GSXR 750. It's an 04 with all the cool stuff, maybe you'll be ready for it then.
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