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Old 03-13-2008, 01:43 AM   #1
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88 kit help!?!

I started to install an 88 kit but the sleeves that are in the engine head and cylinder are rusted stuck. The sleeves that slide over the long bolts and keep the head aligned. Anyone know who would have them in stock? I am going to call around tomorrow.

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Are you talking about the dowel pin sleeves?

If so, spray a bit of WD40 on them for awhile.

Clean them off after they have soaked a bit and heat them up with a small propane torch, they should come right out.
Be careful not to crush them.
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Yeah the dowel pin sleeves. I couldn't think of what they were called to save my life. I have tried the WD-40 and the heat. They won't budge. I let it soak over night we will see if that help but it looks like I need new ones.

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its not done yet? Did you drill the oil jet to 2mm yet? Do that before you install the cyl and head. I have some guide pins if honda doesnt have them.

Make sure you rotate the motor slowly by hand when its all together to make sure the valve timing is correct. Dont just kick it.
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its not done yet? Did you drill the oil jet to 2mm yet? Do that before you install the cyl and head. I have some guide pins if honda doesnt have them.

Make sure you rotate the motor slowly by hand when its all together to make sure the valve timing is correct. Dont just kick it.
Got it back together tonight. Yup I drilled it. That was a pain. I have to do it by hand otherwise the hole would have been crooked. I called a few places found 2 pins. 2 of the longer ones. I ground one down so it would match the shorter one. Seems to be working. Yeah timming is right. That cam gear was a to get right. Only thing left is to put the carb, intake, and exhaust on. That clutch side cover was a to line up and get on. Took me 20 min just for that. I have couple of gaskets left over and one little green o-ring. real tiny. Ohh and the big metal ring here does that go?

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Old 03-13-2008, 11:21 PM   #6
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little green one is not used, far left white is for external oil cooler application(if you have one), the big metal one is the exhaust gasket, your old one is probaby still good(still in the head)
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yeah thats the small metal one for the exhaust. There is an extra? big one maybe. Its the same size as the one that is in the gasket that goes in the middle of the cylinder and the head.
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Got it back together tonight. Yup I drilled it. That was a pain. I have to do it by hand otherwise the hole would have been crooked. I called a few places found 2 pins. 2 of the longer ones. I ground one down so it would match the shorter one. Seems to be working. Yeah timming is right. That cam gear was a to get right. Only thing left is to put the carb, intake, and exhaust on. That clutch side cover was a to line up and get on. Took me 20 min just for that. I have couple of gaskets left over and one little green o-ring. real tiny. Ohh and the big metal ring here does that go?
lol, just take the stud out of the motor to drill the hole.(double nut, then unscrew the stud)
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I have never seen a big metal gasket? only big round gasket I have seen is the cam gear cover gaset.
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Yeah it must be extra. I will take a pic tomorow. You know the metal one that is on the inside of the paper one? Its that same size.
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So got it all together. Started it. Idles great but once I start to give it some gas it backfires. I am 99% sure that the timing is right but I might have got the valves too tight. Would that do it?
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So got it all together. Started it. Idles great but once I start to give it some gas it backfires. I am 99% sure that the timing is right but I might have got the valves too tight. Would that do it?
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check your valve adjustment, double check your valve timing, make sure the marks are lined up.
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WTF!!! I readjusted the valves this time and when I start it up I hear this crazy pop every now and then off idle. Its a high pitched pop. Its coming from the intake. anyone?
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WTF!!! I readjusted the valves this time and when I start it up I hear this crazy pop every now and then off idle. Its a high pitched pop. Its coming from the intake. anyone?
Mine used to backfire through the head gasket. Is that where it's coming from? Or is it backfiring through the carb?

Are you absolutely sure that you have the flywheel on correctly?
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it may be from the head gasket. The timming is right. 100% sure. Checked and double checked. What did you do to fix the backfire thru the head gasket? I cant find it. I thought that might be it but I can't find it.
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it may be from the head gasket. The timming is right. 100% sure. Checked and double checked. What did you do to fix the backfire thru the head gasket? I cant find it. I thought that might be it but I can't find it.
I had to replace the head gasket.

Take some talcum powder and dust around the head where the head gasket is. It'll make it easier to spot the backfire if that's where it's coming from.

Are you gonna race the bike? I've got an extra head gasket set if you need one in a hurry.
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no not gunna race just wanna ride the thing.........
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OMFG! I want to throw this bike out a moving truck. I fixed the backfireing issue. It was a leaky head gasket. Now it runs good at low speed. When the higher revs come it starts running like . I am about to go tear into the carb maybe clean it just to see if that helps if that doesn't work I may need a second opinion. Josh???? lol. I may need to come over and have you help me. May need to borrow a carb that has been set up already see if that fixes it.
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