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Old 03-13-2008, 11:58 AM   #21
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the way i see it let it heal vs. fix it in place

the gamble with let it heal is it may (probably) heal incorrectly and then if you can convince a doc to do it, you can go back in and break it and fix it in place.

the gamble with fixing it in place is, like all screw and plate fixes, later on it becomes an irritant in which case a doc goes in and removes the metal.

if it were a fracture and not a complete break i would be all about leaving it alone. i feel the bones move every time i do, and sometimes it hurts like . i can't comprehend how something moving around inside me as much as these bones move will heal properly.
What kind of break did you have? Do you have a pic of your x-ray?

I went to two doctors with my collarbone and neither wanted to do surgery, they refused (and told me I wouldn't find a doc to do surgery for that break). It took me 6 months to have the fracture calcified and in all of this, I developed a frozen shoulder. I am still having pain when moving the joint when stretching and overall limited range of motion.

Now I recommend to anyone that if you have a break and the doctor says that it doesn't require surgery, by gosh, do something (if you need to with a hammer ) to really displace it. Apparently, that is the fastest way to heal.:/:
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:45 PM   #22
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I had a complete break, displaced, with fragments. Sorry, no picture/x ray right now but I'll try to get one.

I was told by two docs that the sling is the way to go. I stressed a need for it to heal quickly and they said that on it's own is just as fast as fixed. BULL !

Doctor Sanders, I put a link to his clinic earlier in the thread. He is all about finding active people the fastest and best way back to their active lives!
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best collar bone picture I ever saw was from the carpet dog racing. The guy had had his collar bone plated and he crashed after that. So there was a picture of the plate bent like a pretzel.

Keith may remember that he was racing about 2wks post plating.
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the way i see it let it heal vs. fix it in place

the gamble with let it heal is it may (probably) heal incorrectly and then if you can convince a doc to do it, you can go back in and break it and fix it in place.

the gamble with fixing it in place is, like all screw and plate fixes, later on it becomes an irritant in which case a doc goes in and removes the metal.

if it were a fracture and not a complete break i would be all about leaving it alone. i feel the bones move every time i do, and sometimes it hurts like . i can't comprehend how something moving around inside me as much as these bones move will heal properly.

conventional medicine is allot more about risk management if you ask me. yes, going under the knife adds complication. if i lived a sedentary life then letting it heal on its own might be ok. i don't however live a sedentary life. Kinda like getting on a motorcycle, I'll take the risk and gamble that in the end I'll have a better life.
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I had a complete break, displaced, with fragments. Sorry, no picture/x ray right now but I'll try to get one.

I was told by two docs that the sling is the way to go. I stressed a need for it to heal quickly and they said that on it's own is just as fast as fixed. BULL !

Doctor Sanders, I put a link to his clinic earlier in the thread. He is all about finding active people the fastest and best way back to their active lives!
Well said here Mike! It's not a good Ortho that will tell you to just let it heal, it's an Ortho who doesn't want to take any risks and doesn't understand the needs and lifestyles of people. A collar bone was never meant to function with a lump in the middle of it or with a differential in longitude. It was meant to function just the way it was before it was broken. The shoulder is the most complex joint in the body. When collar bone has been displaced the only way to get it close to it's original position is by pining it. It also will heal much much slower if it is constantly moving (even in a sling) and many many times never heals back together. I've seen tons of really messed up shoulders by taking this approach, the problem is the problems usually take years to show up.
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